some people are doing. it's exciting new, there's a whole lot of tit for tatt on ths one. >> as hard as it is to get inside the president's head, donald trump's hetd, it's even hard tore get inside kim jong-un's head. we don't know how seriously the status of north korea is effecting him. to me, the big, big question mark here is how far is he willing to go once he realizes the consequences of opening up north korea, letting in investment, goods and ideas? that's a road he's seen before. libya decided to give up its weapons of mass destruction and what happened? the west ended up undermining kai gafgadhafiy any way. >> right because that's reality. everybody b knows regime change is the ultimate u goal here of pretty much everybody maybe but kim jong-un. maybe china, maybecluding the
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