and destruction on their in -- 33 people are currently serving life sentences in dutch prisons, that's 0.3% of the country's inmates, compared to 7% of-crime in the netherlands reduszed by nearly 39%. there's some evidence that this pragmatism was catching on. 40 years into america's war on crime, prosecutors were encouraged to pursue lenient sentencing, for the first time in decades, the federal prison population went down, but sessions speededly reduced the obama-era guidance. he complained about the slight reduction in the federal prison population. >> it is a factor, i think in