you don't do it. >> awe void it. even if there wasn't an issue. because we are now having this conversation. >> it was even more egregious, you could argue, than what trump jr. did with the meeting in trump tower with the russian lawyer. he wasn't working for the government. he was in a campaign. he was trying to get dirt like everybody in campaigns are. he's installed in the white house. he's taking a meeting like this. if john kelly allows that to survive, you know, that is a corrosive dynamic for someone like kelly who is all about the order of the system. >> that's right. i think kelly had to make a ton of concessions on comparing the don jr. meeting to the kushner issue. he has never done this before. did not know what the rules were. kushner has had the ethics rules gone over repeatedly. he has been there 13 months, as long as his father-in-law. you have to be careful in terms of what kelly is willing to tolerate. he said he would only take the
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