bipartisan deal that senator lindsey graham had worked out with dick durbin and others. >> they clearly won in the last minute there and they kiboshed this at the last minute. i think the reason they're still upset is because for a president they struggled with, sometimes struggled to get along with, it looked like this was going to happen. dick durbin called him after talking to the president thursday morning and said, this is the best conversation i had with the president, let's go up there and get it done. you mentioned senators cotton and perdue. i kind of feel like we need to hear a little bit more from them, because their story at this point is the one that doesn't jibe. they were both in the room. they both first put out a joint statement saying, we don't recall exactly what term was used. okay. that's sort of where kirstjen nielsen is. but on the sunday talk shows, they both went further. i believe perdue said it was a gross characterization or