memory hasn't evolved. >> the discourse right now is pretty low. we're producing some pretty good policy, but those of us in my business need to up their game. it's pretty embarrassing when you have to take your children out of the room just to report the news. >> reporter: white house officials focussing on semantics for their defense telling cnn that senators tom cotton and david perdue heard mr. trump say shithouse rather than shithole. >> i don't know if changing the word from hole to house changes the impact. i am stunned that this is their defense. >> reporter: homeland security secretary will be testifying before the senate judiciary committee in just a few hours. she was among the people in that oval office meeting and has said she does not recall the president using that vulgar language. now, also questioning her are senators dick durbin and lindsey graham who said otherwise. as for that government shutdown,
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