responding to the inaccurate reporting regarding don jr. attention from the president's historical accomplishments in the first year of his presidency. why do you think bannon folded? >> he didn't really fold. i mean, this is the weirdest apology in the world. there's no apology, number one, number two, also doesn't, doesn't disavow anything that he said to me. he takes issue with -- he says, i'm not saying this, i'm saying this about paul manafort. you know, i can tell you, and i actually have come to like steve and think he's a man of enormous insights, but i will tell you how that conversation went and you can judge for yourself. >> okay. >> he -- he gave me the background of that meeting and he said, and he said don jr. wanted to get rid of -- it was actually kushner and don jr.