fair enough, that's bannon and trump versus the gop. now, bannon is turning on trump. something that's been forgotten, george, remember, before this book came out, bannon had talked to "vanity fair" and said, i may run for president in 2020 if donald trump chooses not to run. what you have as a prospect is you've got more than one, quote, conservative republican party. you got the gop, you've got bannon and his insurgents and trump and whoever is around. >> and the question really, the people who follow steve bannon will they likely follow the president of the united states if he turns the corner to run again. that will be the question we'll see. scott lucas, appreciate having you. see you again back in the united kin kingdom. >> thank you. still to come on "cnn newsroom," an exquisite interview with u.s. secretary of state rex tillerson, how he says
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