they will get up, hell or high water and cast the vote for roy moore. so it's just too close to call gauging by polls. i mean, you know what we saw with president trump when he was running. i wouldn't predict if i had to, held a gun to my head, i would say moore sweeps. >> it's an interesting point enthusiasm, who has more enthusiasm on their side. and i guess the question is, you know, as you say, roy moore supporters are enthusiastic and die hard in their believes for him by 35% or so. and they want to go out, they want to go out and vote. the question is, is their enthusiasm on the other side for a doug jones or enough enthusiasm against roy moore? >> i don't think there is that great enthusiasm for doug jones. i mean, i like doug, but just like me, he's another aging