seem to be moves to tell the russians, you know, hold off, we're going to try and relax sanctions on you, we're going to try and have a different relationship with you. and presumably, at least, many people have said, this is all because trump was in some way being assisted by the russians. we don't have any proof yet on that first piece of the story. >> that's right. i think that is the -- however, you know, $100 million question, $64,000 question. that is the question. and there is still a lot we don't know. we know why the russians were reaching out to the trump campaign repeatedly and in many different ways, which is also very classic, right? you have lots of different kind of efforts going out, lots of tentacles reaching toward the trump campaign. which is totally understandable. because you had trump talking about how he wanted to respect russia and get along with russia, how he thought putin was a great and strong leader. that he wanted to pull the u.s. back off the world stage, which is great for russia, because russia wants to expand its
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