much about sanctuary cities from republican candidates everywhere. >> also, the nfl, taking a knee. >> right. >> that became an issue. so you have this establishment republican who has suddenly become a cultural conservative in the era of donald trump. >> how do you see it? >> if democrats can't have success tonight, they're going to have to really re-evaluate. a state where at the presidential level, they've had success in the last three presidentials, a diverse state, a big state that they've trended towards blue, they'll have to say to themselves, we need better candidates, a better platform, better everything at the -- >> northam has a wonderful resume. i mean, this guy's a physician, he has, you know, impeccable character. he's been pretty boring, as a candidate. >> yeah, he's not a good retail population. >> he's not. but it's hard to imagine a better resume for an electorate that doesn't much care for politicians. >> well, that's right. because he's against a washington, d.c. lobbyist, who also happened to be, of course, the head of the rnc and a senior
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