>> who do you want? >> there's a strange delay. go ahead, douglas. >> okay, i say when you deal with donald trump in this issue, you have to look at the race debate, the border wall with mexico, the comments he said after charlottesville, that he feels by beating up on obama he's scoring points with people that didn't like the idea of a first african-american president. it seems pure and simple, and he goes back to it time and time again. >> i'm not saying there isn't a racial component. there very well may be. i do think he's obsessed with barack obama. he's also obsessed with crowd sizes and also obsessed with hillary clinton, too. >> you just made my point i said. some things you just can't teach. >> that might be different than the race thing. >> no matter how much money, he