well as mccan both respect the office of the president, that's who their client is. the only one that really has attorney-client privilege is dowed. so he is the one that apparently is asking for more be withheld as is -- >> mcbegan. >> tie cob. and mcgentleman is the one whose withholding. it's an interesting set of conflicts there given who they're client is. that's interesting john and jeff, this is right that tie cob represents the presidency. >> he works for the government. >> so president trump doesn't have the same kind of attorney-client privilege with him? >> that's right. one of the unresolved questions is what kind of attorney-client privilege government lawyers have with the president. it's clear dowed has a