going over to syria being trained and coming back. but now they are part of the other countries that are victims of an attack like this. the what does it tell you? >> it's also personally, i lived in spain and spent a lot of time in tarragona and barcelona. the these are beautiful tourist towns that don't normally see this kind of activity. what you see on the ground shah they are increasingly cornered. increasingly returning to car bombs, vehicle-borne ieds, there is a sense they're being backed into a corner so the inspiration and ideology becomes more important. >> let taes take that idea. fight the man. also have to fight the ideology. that leads us to how the president responded when he said study what general per shing