they're talking. it's a pedestrian thoroughfare. so, we've seen it and so it's beyond this incident. it's -- the first thought is where else. first, do i know anybody there. second, where else is this going to happen. it's only the middle of august. and that's the intent. and so, that's the first thought. >> beyond that. >> beyond that, you really have to wonder about, look, spain has very strong anti-terrorism laws. they've had them since before 9/11, since before islamic terrorism, when they had their own terrorist problems with e.t.a. and the basque separatists. they have tight police restrictions. so, what happened? how is it that this got through? and if this is isis-inspired instead of isis directed, do police and law enforcement and intelligence agencies have to really rethink their approach to terrorism? for example, is it not just about collecting intelligence ahead of time but making sure that there is no vehicular