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about the numbers? we know economists surveyed by the washington post don't think it would help the economy. we know what the data reveals, we know the jobs that most immigrants take are ones that americans will not take and if you talk to the growers and service industry, these lower-skilled jobs, they're jobs we need them to fill. you ask donald trump, he just made a request to hire more foreign workers and they were not i.t. specialists. we know what the data is about. is this another pitch to the base, questioning the promise of america, questioning our diversity as our strength and defining or redefining who we want to be in this country? >> i think two things are at play here. one, this is not surprising that donald trump came out this way. this is something he campaigned on heavily during hiss campaigning. this is another way -- as david pointed out, it's very unlickly this will happen in congress, that they'll get another bill to

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