unexpected depth. >> what we think of the new format, the dance numbers should come before the big sketch. >> gee, i don't know. >> i like it. >> now i like it. >> yeah, me, too. >> i like it, too. what do you know? look at that tie you're wearing. >> i only wrote what i knew about, which is life. if you're writing about that, nobody can say, that's not true. it is true. i'm living it. >> on "the dick van dyke show," we could believe the actions of the characters because we could relate to them. this wasn't a genie in a bikini on someone's mantel. these were real people. >> women are more -- >> honest and direct? >> no. they're more -- >> courageous? >> we have these real feelings, husbands with relationships with wives. this was the comedy of living.