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rights, who are voting against that, who are voting against that image, that picture. it's not as much economics as the direction of the country and that's a larger discussion that has to be had. >> let any ask scott to respond to that. go ahead, scott. >> well, i think there's some arrogance and condescension in that viewpoint. look, kentuckians are proud americans and, yes, there is some self-interest in any vote you cast in any election, but there's also national interests. and i do agree, there are some cultural issues at play in this last election. hillary clinton was openly disdainful of appalachia. she said she was going to put coal miners and coal companies out of business and there was a real dises connect between the national democratic party and rural america. not just in kentucky, but in pennsylvania, wisconsin, michigan, all these states that donald trump won. they have one thing in common. they're in this part of the country where the democratic party lacked a message that appealed to the people that they had previously relied upon to win in presidential elections. so until the democrats come up with a message that actually appeals to rural america, they're going to keep losing elections here and, yes, some of

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