point in the general development of the nuclear program. when you hear the threats then, it sounds like from north korea and the really what north korea is say iing you see that is hyperbole about how far this missile could go. >> it's worth keeping in mind that north korea has been able to hold south korea, u.s. forces in south creer at risk and also forces in japan. so it's certainly had a way to threaten both neighbors and the united states. on top of that, it seems to e me that the main significant of this is really seeing a step forward toward something longer. but this missile is still only about half the way to the u.s. west coast. i think the argument that it could carry heavy war haed is probably not true. that's probably bluster. so the jury is out on this. i really think the lesson of this is that the united states needs to find a way to sit down