>> it was quite a moment. >> look, compared to what's come afterwards, that was patty cake. let's be real here. bill was, you know, in the driver's seat there. he had all the strength that i didn't have, and, you know, i made some points. but i don't want to relive that. bill and i have i think worked out a pretty good understanding and i think the clintons have done a lot for this country and, you know, woe all develop our scars and i've done a lot of things. if i were to recount all my campaign what do you call mistakes or excesses. >> that's the second half of the conversationing. >> yeah, we don't need to go there. and i'm not going to call it mistakes or excess, but i'm not a perfect candidate and i've certainly had politics is about to some degree excess and exaggeration and relevanter rick and we all are guilty of that at one time or another, but i'm not going to parse out when i was hitting true north and when i was over the top. >> trust is an important