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relying on things said on the campaign trail and not actually what's in the -- in the writing of the statute, and i think that can get dangerous. if you think that trump is an irrational actor and a guy that does not observe important norms, do not violate those norms and act irrationally as well in order to be a check on him. i think that is a real dangerous line that a lot of institutions, a lot of people are walking in an attempt to sort of cut him off at the knees and it's not good. >> i just want to add that at that rally, one of the things he was supposed to be talking about at length was health care and selling it, and he was not selling health care. he wanted to react to this ruling, and you can't blame him for wanting to react to it but he went on and on and on instead of doing what he needs to do which is selling this health care bill to the american people. >> the president is not going to back down now. this is a test of his powers in some way. >> a really good point. . i would just say this. between the first version of the ban and the second version of the ban there was a lot of discussion about how long this needs to last.

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