message there's nothing to see here. we'll see, erin, if this harmony continues, especially since they're such vastly different men with vastly different policy prescriptions and approaches. >> sunlen, thank you. kaley mcnerney, normer senior adviser to the president, dan pfeiffer. dan, let me start with you. we never see steve bannon -- actually that's not true. we see the back of his head or a side eye, but he never talks. what was your impression on him on stage? >> i think this whole thing was performance art, two trump staffers interviewed by a trump supporter about how awesome trump is. it felt like they were protesting too much, no, no, we like each other, there's no dissension. it's hard to see the real steve bannon. if you want the see the real steve bannon go back to the speech in 2014 behind closed doors, read what breitbart has written about him.