7:45 a.m. their visas were revoked in mid-air, in transit, and they were sent back to the middle east within three hours of arrival in philadelphia. it was very unfair. these people were not refugees. they were simply visa card holders who -- had been in progress since 2003. and i thought that was very unfair. we have to develop a more thoughtful policy than the one implemented so far. >> continuing this line of your calling for a halt to the policy, would you then go so far to suggest or hope that the administration would hold off on filing this appeal? >> well, i'm not sure what the legal strategy is. i'm not here to say this order is unconstitutional. i simply don't know. i would prefer that they not appeal and, you know, go back to the drawing board on this because it seemed to me the policy wasness properly vetted to begin with. the departments of defense state, homeland security and justice in my view were not properly and adequately