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do you know? >> jake, we are trying to get a clear picture. there certainly do appear to be people still detained even though judge donnelly's decision last night was quite clear that the action by the president was stayed and people should not be detained. we're still not clear that the trump administration has honored that decision by a federal judge. >> now there have been times in the nation's history when detainees -- not detainees but refugees or immigrants from a specific country were put on hold, suspended. barack obama did it with iraqis for six months. jimmy carter did it with iranians during that hostage crisis. how is this different? >> well, i don't know the details of those orders but i can tell you this much. you have seven nations that are included with no criteria whatsoever. again, someone may already be a permanent resident of the united states and may have served in the military, according to the executive order, they can be detained and sent back for no

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