and report them, to do journalism based on evidence. and intellectual rigor. that's our job. and then the chips fall where they may. i'm not going to sweat whether your audience -- portions of your audience or portions of the michigan electorate don't get that donald trump is a dishonest man making insane policy decisions. i can't effect that. >> quick answer -- >> i can report the truth and that's what my colleagues are doing every single day and being called and enemy for doing it. >> are you frustrated at an inability to reach the 46% like the three with whom i led the show? >> no. i think you're absolutely right. i think our job is to tell it like we see it, call them like we see it. and you know what? the president of the united states is not going to shut up the press any more than he's going to shut up government employees who he now wants to