>> i would. and the reason is this. that the notion that somehow not talking to countries is punishment to them, which has been the guiding diplomatic principle of this administration, is ridiculous. but if we -- >> thank you very much, everyone. good night. >> viewed today, the statement might not seem extraordinary. but in 2007, it was practically revolutionary to say that an american president would speak to strong men like iran's ahmadinejad and north korea's kim. >> constitute an axis of evil. >> two-thirds of then-president bush's axis of evil. >> certainly we're not going to just have our president meet with -- >> hillary clinton pokes holes in obama's argument on stage that night, and the reviews were pretty unanimous. obama's answer was naive. >> are you kidding me? those are the last people i'd

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