>> certainly we're not going to just have our president meet with -- >> hillary clinton poked holes in obama's argument on stage that night and the reviews were pretty unanimous -- obama's answer was naive. >> are you kidding me? those are the last people i'd meet with in my first year. i'd never meet with those guys. >> but obama strategist david axelrod says that the future president was adamant on a phone call with staff obama told them -- >> w not backing off at all. >> i actually think that was the moment when he found his voice in that campaign because he realized that he was bringing a point of view that nobody else was going to bring. >> that voice continued when he was inaugurated. >> we will extend a hand if you are willing to unclinch your

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