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to be across the board tax cuts so we have to wait and see the actual policy. >> supporters of the steve minuchin is that he hasn't leld government office so he's not held as a washington insider though clearly he's a financial insider. >> there are a lot of kind of insiders american people don't care for. people in the republican primary whose thought i've only been a governor, i've never been to washington i don't count. and if you are scott walk ore the jeb bush voters see you part as the political class. and everybody is acknowledging american people don't care for wall street or people who come out of the belly of that particular beast and i do think this trump has set a pretty high bar for himself to clear in terms of how he's per received in tweeting industry relative to regular people. >> they did move off the lobbyists who they had in the transition. but do you think this is a mistake to reach out to goldman sachs for 24? >> i think these are men who are extremely accomplished in the

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