process is very interesting. we've seen this procession in and out of bedminster, the gulf resort. we saw this procession of people in and out of trump tower. it's a very strange, unusual transition process. the last two transition processes, the obama and bush transitions were much more buttoned down. we didn't see a trail of people having their picture taken with the president-elect. it reflects donald trump's style in many ways. >> i was reading an article in "the new york times" how donald trump is picking his cabinet. in this report they say that mr. trump loves attention and the drama of the election process. he's got to stoke it. a senior advisor describing the romney meeting as mr. romney simply coming to pay his respects to the president-elect and kiss his ring. do you agree with this? and is this an indication maybe of how trump could govern? >> yes, i think it is. what we know about donald trump is he's not the kind of