discussion where there was an opposing viewpoint. he wanted to hear from people who disagreed with him, and competing view points, competing perspectives, and i think that was something he also -- he always valued and i think that's the type of insight he's going to offer to the trump transition team and president-elect trump, some of the policy proposals, particularly in foreign policy and national security to seek out those competing perfectives because the challenges on that front -- on that issue front, are great, and you know hearing from people who have studied about these issues and care about them will be an important part if he is to have a successful presidency. >> did he make you fly southwest? just kidding. >> anybody who knows governor romney is not surprised that he's waiting patiently in line and he's probably going to haggle with the price, too. >> my goodness. what do they call you the eight eye forget how many sons. you were the eighth or nineth or
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