>> right. >> but i do think we're going to have to steal our spines because i think it's only just begun. >> sometimes you're look a man or woman on an island because i see you -- you know, you're -- i don't know what your political beliefs are and you don't know mine. people are often wrong about what they think i am and i think it's probably the same with you. and i wonder how you are dealing with the guys over at fox news, because you say they're your friends but they often criticize you. how do you deal with that? >> i'm not friends with everybody. you know it's like a family. you've got your family members who you love and you have the weird uncle who you just try to avoid at the christmas dinner table. for the most part i love my colleagues at fox news and i've developed a lot of really close friendships and those guys have been shoulder to shoulder through a lot. >> is it tough for some of the guys who have been there forever to see a woman now becoming -- or who is the face of fox news