data. both campaigns probably have better than the public polling. you know, i think this is a traditional republican/democrat race as 2012 was in polarized country but where the electoral map favors democrats and demography favors democrats. we'll know. can spend from now until tuesday and then we'll know. >> nothing about this traditional, now suddenly it's traditional? >> i know. better late than never. >> hillary hatred factor is a real difference between what happened in 2008 and '09. that's the wild card. >> mitt romney a little bit better liked than donald trump. >> nobody is going to win a popularity contest. >> i understand what you're saying but i think 2012 is analogous. tea party rising up talking
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