scrapingly mean when he's after somebody than newt gingrich. the fact is he tends to do it himself which hasn't helped him over the years. but his super pack pag, the spokesman for his super pac is his longtime rick tyler. the truth is those of us who actually agreed with the supreme court decision, because the first amendment and all that stuff. the fact is, everybody's got a chance to build their own super pac. my guess is it was somebody from a super pac that called governor perry today. and that was the enlightenment that he got. everybody can do this. and newt understands that this is not the girl scout cookie drive. this is big-time politics. he's been engaged in this for 30 years. he knows what's involved. and he ought to let it roll off his back. the problem with newt is he can't laugh at himself. >> mary, i know you like him.

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