9/11 as well. >> reporter: that's right. actually, wolf, talking about that firehouse, engine 54, actually that's where i was on 9/11, and i remember i attended a press conference and the fire commissioner had come out and you could tell, his eyes were completely red and glassy. he came out and he said that 343 firefighters had been lost and nobody knew how new york city was ever going to be able to recover from that. and immediately we started going to engine houses all around the city and there was a sense of waiting and at engine 54, where the president is right now, i stood outside there. family members had begun to gather. i remember them closing the shades. the cars they had driven that day were standing out on the streets and there was this odd, it wasn't even odd, it was this white powder. it was debris from ground zero that had actually blown up more than 54 blocks. we're talking about three miles.
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