of italians. does it make a difference symbolically yes but as to what happens on the ground, it's hard to believe. i come back to this. there is a sense that we're halfway in and we're halfway out. and that the same thing is true of nato and that there's no -- i believe there's a widening sense that if we're going to do this, let's do it and finish the job. let's not leave it hanging with a lot of civilians continuing to be killed. >> the second half of that sentence, the president, meaning president obama emphasized the best way to ensure the safety of the libyan people is for gadhafi to leave power. the president of the united states is on the record that he has to go. yet the united states is not in the front seat in the driver's role in trying to bring that about. >> the president has been very clear from the beginning that he had to go. how many weeks? it must be seven, eight, nine weeks we're into since he first said he's got to go. it hasn't happened. you know, it's a striking thing, john, for when you talk to
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