respect what they're trying to do. but at the same time, unfortunately repression, if used repeatedly, ruthlessly, brutally, can work. we saw that in iran and i'm afraid we could see it in syria. >> and yet, we're still seeing demonstrators pour into the street. has it not reached a critical mass that could really create cracks in the regime? >> well, as you know all too well, anderson, we don't have foreign press, a free press in there covering the events. so it's hard to know. but what i do know is we have not really seen massive demonstrations in damascus. many of the people demonstrating in damascus have come in from the countryside or the surrounding villages, and there are millions of people in damascus, most of them sunni arabs, another couple million alepo, and we have not seem them