few minutes ago. and i spoke with these men and women. there was one woman in the group. she's already known, and i felt that they were good people, responsible, and so -- so i did -- >> did you call your president? this doesn't happen to normal people. >> yes, i call my president from benghazi. and i told him that. a bloodbath threatening young fighters completely with nothing in hands. and a political council worth being helped. and i told him also that in my opinion gadhafi had lost any sort of authority to represent any longer the libyan people. so i ask him on the phone would you receive, mr. president -- >> you said something else, you