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and it's gotten much tougher. now they're on record saying he's got to go, and once you say that as president of the united states, your credibility is on the line. and now we have along with all of the sort of atrocities going on, brutality, the way he's mowing people down, as you say, this puts the president in a very tough spot. there are powerful arguments, as you know, against american intervention. bob gates has said, you know, basically, look, we're overextended military already. bob gates has been saying in the past, we don't have enough money in the till to pay for all the military actions. we ought to start cutting that down not the preside down. the president -- cnn saying if you get in, how do you get out. on the other hand he's part a coalition that's been stemming for gadhafi that said gadhafi must go. i say it's time to act. it's time -- the u.s. should not do this unilaterally. but at the nato summit meeting with defense ministers thursday, he needs to come out of that

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