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>> you would go further, you would argue, i assume that public sector workers should not be able to unionize because in effect they are on both sides of the bargaining table. >> wouldn't want to be quite as categorical as that but we should have a big burden of suspicion against it. and i lot of cases its led to great waste of money. by the way a great failure of governmental institutions. people on the left who want government to work should be aware one of the reasons government works so much worse today than it did 30 and 40 years ago because of the spread of these work rules. >> to comment on your point on being on both sides of the bargaining table. one of the arguments we are hearing a lot. i think we need to be careful about making that argument because there are a lot of actors in society that vote, that contribute to political campaigns, and also have economic relationship with the government. and a lot of those actors are big business. the health care industry, ge, for example, oil companies,

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