and whenever, you know, if he was a bad boy, she would say, you're going to be there. i'm going to send you there. >> reporter: to the orphanage. >> to the orphanage. so he was really frightened about it. >> reporter: we all remember the night he died, and people coming and spontaneously and thousands of people outside singing. did you hear those songs? >> of course. because i was -- my bedroom was right in front of it. i'm right next to it. and so all night i'm listening to them singing or sometimes they'd say the radio, john singing. and when john was singing, it just made me feel strange. because he's supposed to be in bed with me, and then, you know. it wasn't very -- easy. >> reporter: was it helpful? did it make it harder? >> it made it very hard. yeah. >> reporter: i hadn't realized that mark david chapman had actually spent the day outside your house and had actually seen