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of the country. lou should have said this shows how even someone like me who is concerned about this issue, and doesn't want to employ illegals can't avoid it. it shows how big a problem it is, how huge a problem it is. let's work together and find solutions. he didn't say that. he pushed back sort of crossing ts and dotting is. >> he did not say that. kelly goff, gobz said he was disappointed with the national media saying they gone along without doing any reporting of the only organization that contacted him for a statement was cbs news but it's hard to duplicate the reporting of isabel macdonald. she spent a lot of time talking to the workers, not using their names because they're in the country illegally. >> i've been on this program to defend my team of new media if you will, howard. this is definitely an example of a feather in the cap of old media. this was some very well done investigative reporting. so i'm not really sure where lou's coming from to say that this was a hit job, this was a smear job. i mean a reporter can have a set out agenda or intent, but if they actually do the

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