implying some personal threat anyway. >> david gergen, i want to bring you in. we didn't hear your voice. you have been skeptical about this project a long time saying, yes, legally, constitutionally, they have every right to build. do they need to build it on this spot? it's obviously a sensitive issue. did the imam change your mind on any issue? >> he struck me as a man of peace, moderate, a bridge builder. i think he is genuine in that. i did not think he offered a lot of alternatives, nor do i think he truly heard the voices of rosalee or andy, who lumped people together about extremists. there are people who are nowhere near extremists, but have genuine feelings, emotions. and i do think -- fareed and i have not had a chance to talk about this. i do believe there is middle ground and you and i talked