this has worked that well, well to elect the republicans would be a turn back words. so this is the battleground, the frame of reference we will be seeing. the president is going to kick this off and monday at a labor day rally in milwaukee. >> lex, what is your view? what do you think? >> i'm so struck by how uncertain everybody is. when you seek to economists, no one knows what they should be doing. when you talk to steven, he has a clear sense of what has to happen here. >> that is why we love having him on. >> you hear economists cut taxes and keep them for the rich or not. behind it all is the concept of long-term debts and when do we tackle that problem? >> stay with us all of you, next a few positive signs, is that going to help? is that going to help democrats get elected in november or does