i think the american people would rise to the occasion and love every minute of it. they would -- what he would tell them is you have to be on natural resource -- our natural resource in the united states. make your pick. we don't care. but just be on american resources in eight years. >> larry: another call. martinsville, virginia. hello. >> caller: yes, good afternoon, mr. pickens. i worked as a mechanic for over 30 years in a chemical plant. and we followed a lot of strict safety rules. also as a mechanic we did a lot of prevention maintenance work. my question is do you think that bp's preventative maintenance program failed? is it a big result of this disaster that we're going through now? >> no, i don't think it was a maintenance problem at all. >> larry: because? >> i think that -- i thing problem was, first, didn't run the centralizer. second, they got a bad cement job. and did not run the cement bond