recruited a classmate and get a clearance and have that person feed them information for a long time? that's what a real spy is. a real spy is a puppet master, not a james bond character. >> it's not like in the movies. >> it's very much not like in the movies. >> thank you very much for joining us and clearing up some of that. ira winkler, the author of the book "spies among us." and next, i go one-on-one with barbara boxer. her quest for a fourth term has turned into one of this year's hottest senate races.
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