think tank. against phil kent, with americans for immigration control. >> what's your argument against it? >> well, the unfairness, don, is the fact these are slots that should be given to american kids and american citizens. these are people that are gaming the system, sad to say. and it is against the 1996 immigration law to have an illegal immigrant who is known in post-secondary education. >> i want to get angela's response. what do you say to him? >> look, if there was an easy way to do this, surely that young woman's family would have done it. there are simply thousands of students like her who are as american as my two daughters that can't have a path forward. there is no way for them to get a student visa or for them to get think kind of permanent status unless congress does act and takes responsibility for our broken immigration laws and gets these kids on the right side of the law. >> how many kids and students do you believe are in ms. colotl's position, angela?