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an experienced bomb make wore have had some sort of initiator that would have worked that set this thing off. experts have told me if the propane tanks had gone off, the kill radius would have been 30 to 50 feet. there would have been a lot of dead people at times square. >> if it is amateurish, does it belie, harry, any international conspiracy involvement, in your opinion? >> i suspect no. i isn't it is local. again, my crystal ball is as good as anyone else's. the one thing that was not done that should have been done, in fact if he knew what was doing, is turn the gas valve on on the propane. then if you had an m-80 or m-88, whatever firecracker he had to innish yates, we have had the initiation of a combustible, that would have as bob said hurricane a radius of about 50 feet. >> larry: so they are effective, when done right? >> effective but they have divided baghdad, essentially, car bombs it started a civil war in iraq it slided lebanon in the '80s.

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