Im tom hick, vice chair of the elections assistance commission, and on the panel you will see two people, and the third is coming, and the fourth is also coming. So, im going to introduce the folks who are here [ laughter ] so, to my left, virginia atkinson is the senior accessibility and accessible inclusion specialist at the National Foundation for electoral systems, and she has more than a decade of experience work on disability rights and governance issues. And she provides Technical Assistance and training to Civil Society, organization and election management bodies. She is also the lead author of the manual equal access, how the include persons with disabilities in elections and political processes. On my right, stafford ward. He is secretary of the board of the oversees Vote Foundation as well as the technology in voting systems adviser. The foundation provides u. S. Citizens with the Voting Services and election data central to the commissions on this side, over here. Yep. In elections, we just roll with it. So, central to that mission is the foundations work to provide online tools to assist the americans living anywhere in the world. Including those living abroad and serving in the military to register to vote and request their absentee ballots. Stafford plays a lead role in shaping the strategies of the Technology Initiatives and works to ensure that the voters have easy access to information they need to participate in the democracy from all corners of the world. Michelle bishop is the Voting Rights specialist with the National Disability Rights Network and a position she has held for nearly five years. Michelle provides training and Technical Assistance providing Voting Rights and accessible for voters with disabilities and she also coordinates the working group and manages their list serve. Last but not least and i will int introduce him, because he is on the way is cameron siznak and he is the director of the office of general elections in Fairfax County, the large nest virginia, which is the states most populous u county. And he oversees the staff to coordinate the voting elections and initiatives pfor the county and 3 million voters and during his time as commissioner, he has expanded the countys Language Access and successful story that he has shared with us last summer at our language summit here in d. C. And we look forward to his continued conversation today when he arrives. So with that, i want to start with michelle to talk about disability access. Absolutely. Am i good . Okay. Hi. Im Michelle Bishop and i like to make an entrance and so i am always fashionably late, but i would like to thank cameron for being later than i am today. Come on up. [ laughter ] something that i will be basically never living down from mr. Hicks, so thank you for having me this afternoon first and foremost, and im happy to be here to talk about disability voter access and what we are looking towards in the 2018 election cycle and with the disability Rights Network, we are a National Network of disability rights organizations, so there is an organization of ours in every state, district, and territory in the united states. Wherever you r we are there and we are mandated by haba to access voting for people with disabilities. And now that is out of the way, i want to get to what you have come here to hear. And to sum it up for access to voting for people with disab disabilities is the report coming out of the government Disabilities Office and they have survey ed the polling plac access in 2000, and 2008 and 2016 and that has been the best benchmark has to where we are at, and this is the most recent report of 2016 is really telling, because what we have found is that the polling place, itself, that have to travel from the parking all of the way up to the voting booth has consistently improved in terms of the accessibility. The first time it was studied in 2000, only 16 , and less than 0 of the polling places were full less than 20 of the opolling places were accessible. And in 2008, 30 and then 2016, 40 , and that is sounding bad because less than half is acc s accessible, but the sad thing is that when we saw that, i was excited. That is telling you where our expectations were right now, because it is less than half, but at least the number is going in the right direction and i will take that win for right now. I will say that the although progress has been slow for many reasons. The least of which is lack of funding. The progress has been slow, and we are moving in the right direction and i think that the nu number that is most telling is that since 2000, the gao is looking at the accessibility of the the voting booth itself. And in 2008 they found that 46 of them were not fully accessible. 46 of voting stations themselves had some type of the impidme mepediment for people w disabilities n. 2016, the number went up to 65 in some way inaccessible so we are going to the wrong direction in how we are actually casting the ballot. That means they were less likely to be wheelchair accessible, and less like hly to be set up to ensure voter privacy and less likely to have earphones for those who cannot read the ballot or a page turning, and less likely to be powered on. We are setting up Voting Machines that we are not bothering to switch on. And there are two i think that in my mind are main reasons for, that and what changed between 2008 and 2016 . I will say that the first thing that we have talked a lot about today is the funding issue, and when hava passed the federal government was willing to put the money into the states to get the equipment that we need to make it happen, and that money has not been replaced in. In states and local jurisdictions that desperately need the funding to be able to maintain or update that equipment. And it is sorely needed to be updated, because the machines that we are using are invented before ipads and iphones, so they themselves are severely out of date, but the funding is not are there to make the changes so we are working with equipment that is less than ideal. Another point that is a focal point today is the security issue. I think that it is important, and i think that it is important for elections to be secure and accurate and we all know that, but the main solution for the security issue is returning to the hand marked paper ballot. This has been the primary solution that has been offer ed for all of our Cyber Security concerns which means that we went back to polling places where mostly setting up folding tables with the stack of ballot s and pen. And we have one piece of accessible equipment and you cant do that and we are not even able to, because for some reason when we talk about voting security, we get comfortable with the segregation. And to look at this paperback, and anyone else can go to use a special machine over here in the corner that is [ inaudible ] can and how we are casting the ballot to start to see the inequality. There is one that you can see that separate is not equal. And so we are seeing the decline in the accessibility of the voting booth itself and we will continue to see that until we start to proposing Real Solutions that are multi acce accessible and until we are willing to fund them with the funding that we need to make it possible. Because that technology is available, and in 16 year, we are still having the same argument. The technology exists today, but we need to learn how the leverage it in a way that is efficient and present to te elections authorities. So there are real solution brishgs not tasolutions, but we are not talking about them, and also in 2018, we are changing the way we vote. All of the sudden, people are registering to vote online or maybe a mail ballot. Voters expect those options, and it is easier for the Elections Officials to manage, and the voters to manage, but all of the oopgss have to be accessible, and they are to varying degrees, and like everything else, everybody does it differently, a and the extent to which we are talking about disabilities throughout that process to make sure it is accessible is going to determine how accessible the systems are. Are we talking to people with disabilities when we roll it out or krcreating new voting equipmt to have people with disabilities not being asked what they think about it. And are we implementing it, and not asking them if it is going to be working in the first place. And so all of those solutions are simple because we have to be collaborating and working together. We have talked a lot today about the expectations of the elections authorities and now it is not enough to been a expert in elections, but you vu to be an i. T. Expert, and now Cyber Security and no blockchain came up, because nobody defined it, right . Half of the people in the room dont know what a blockchain is and you have to be an expert in all of these things, and that is unrealistic and unfair, and the good news is that it is also that you dont have to be an expert in those things, but you need to know who to talk to. And there are disability rights org asianizations in every state and territory who are mandated to work on this whether we are talking to them or not, and we might as well be working together, and we can solve the issues, but that is a lot of what we will be working on. And one question later son how can groups like yours work with the Election Officials to move the ball forward and with that, cameron, we are going to be going to you, and the premise is that we are giving fiveminute presentation, and then we will be, i will be asking questions. Consider iing the target audience i will try to limit my five minutes, and so i have to thank you for allow knowing be the award winner for the fashionably late entry. Being the moderator is great, and i will tell you that literally being trapped on the on ramp on i6666, and if you are visiting d. C. In the future, avoid 66, because if you are talking about the lines for elections weshg can build some fa fantastic lines off there. In terms of the local administration, because i could not agree more with you in looking holistically in the approach. Here in virginia, one of the things that we had a fantastic look at election where is we had to have recount, and you could see these things not in the the simulated environment, or the test environment, but the real world, and did the person fill out the bubble right. For those who have done the recounts in the election, and looked at all of the ballots, you know that it is not as simple as, you know, filling that bubble and in that direction they they follow. So, you know, i get to think that, you know, what happens when somebody who may not be able to hold a pen correctly, and what happens for the person who does not have the ability to actually understand fill in the bubble, what options do they have, and are they that willing to go over to ask for the one machine that is there. A few years back u i was offended when i walked into the polling places, and my teams had put up a handicapped sign on the ada device and started to explain to them it is not for somebody who is physically disabled necessarily, but it is for somebody who might have a visual disability or for somebody who might have a cognitive disability to allow them to interact and that is the approach that we try to take here in Fairfax County is that it is something that the election officers understand that it is not necessarily somebody rolling nup a wheelchair or might be using a cane. So getting that idea into the 5,000 election officers heads at the same time they do in fact need to do more than pull it out of the bag, and turn it on, and they need to understand that it needs to have all of the accessories able and ready to go so that every voter will have the ability to vote. And so one of the things that i want to look towards is leveling the voting experience for everybody. So as the new equipment is coming out and more reminiscent of the style that is going to prevent overvoting, and voters with a language barrier will have the opportunity no matter the language. And so getting and using those the ada devices as actual full polling devices for everybody so that regardless of what the voters disabilities or limitations may be, they are voting the same way and the same method as every voter who cast a ballot and ultimately at the end of the day, winds oup with the same type of ballot so we are not debating back and forth and having a threejudge panel to decide if an extra line that somebody drew through the name constitutes a i wanted that voter or i wanted that candidate or not. So, i think that those are the sort of the paths that we can go down towards, and those are decisions that we have to make as administrators, and i have to be the one pounding the drum at the General Assembly to say, we need more money, otherwise, we are going to be seeing situations like this, and if we dont have the tools and resources for voters, we will continue to have essentially what amounts to have contested election, because we will have ink all over the paper ballot, and so i think that minimizing that and getting those resources are one of the things that i look at locally especially as just a little bit ago of our General Assembly here. Thank you for invite knowing the panel and a specific acknowledgment to my wife, happy anniversary. I have a slightly different take on the disability, and different from what the other panelists have said today. The goals for my presentation today is a different of the narrative of the absentee voting and overseas voting. And we have had ballot issues that were prior to the uniform and overseas voting and absentee voting since 1996 where the ballots could be reached to the voters oversees and received on time, and the citizens had the ability to vote overseas, and the whole foundation sees itself as a Inflection Point of the policy that we feel for the o r overseas voters with disabilities. And one is that people who live overseas 20plus years have to file for the absentee ballots every year, and they have to prove their citizenship, and those who were born overseas may not have the ability to vote oversea, and the voter turnout rate is 4 , and i think that i am looking at my colleague here are from the report of congress to 2016, it is a 4 rate, and as have been mentioned, the u. S. Supreme Court Oral Arguments where it was, which was taking a ruling on the how the National Voter registration act, and in that case, there is a example of the military voter who served 15 years in iraq and four years in afghanistan, and thrown off of the rolls, because he did not vote in consecutive election cycles and that is the reason that he was taken off tof the rolls. But this is part of the narrative that is changing, and we are focused on that at the foundation. So i want to get to the three points that i wanted to identify in my remarks here. One is that i wanted to explain who are the u. S. Voting foundation, and to address more of the accessibility and technology that we are utilizing and three to the talk about the participation with the Election Officials throughout the country. I noticed that tom mentioned the overseas voting foundation, but we are no longer known as that. We were own as the overseas voting foundation, which is establi established by the ceo at the time who she saw a need for having greater access for those overseas con ssistent with the ucava act, and we are not an advocacy group. We are Nonpartisan Group to serve those living abroad to have access to vote. In 2004, we were the first to auto mate the first writein absentee balloting, and section 203 of the act, and we were there to make sure that elements were in place so that u. S. Citizens living overseas, no matter where they lived had access to the ballot. Part of this vision is that every citizen is a voter and what that means is that basically ensuring that every citizen has access to Voter Registration with the democracy and citizen life as voting for a central actionaction. So the foundation makes the v s process easier for overseas voters as those in country. My next point of the disability is that some of the reforms we have seen of the act that came with the military and the overseas Voter Empowerment act of 2009. That helped to facilitate and expand the voters rights overseas for the u. S. Citizen, and that has enabled us at the foundation to leverage that act to increase accessibility for those u. S. Citizens living overseas. And again, this is part of the narrative that we are changing to discard the old notions of what it meant to vote overseas to what it is now in terms of how we are using the specific knowledge to access those voters overseas. We are using the industry standards, you know, in terms of the technology, and the excel, and the python and some of the other programming language that is out there, and the other Assistive Technology in the backend databases so that it is access only the local and state and thirdparty organizations. And so part of that harnessing is to host Web Solutions for the states. And we have Election Officials data that we have collected from all of the officials across the country, and the data has an application interface which is going to help push the information that we collect to the users and licensees so they can best use the information at their ledger. So it is because we are a Civic Technology organization, we are very, very serious about providing high quality curated data ta. And we are very serious about the privacy, and also as the previous panelist said, about security. And that is something that doug mentioned in the top of the remarks earlier, but that is leading into the partnerships with the elected officials across the country. That being, you know, with the state Election Officials and the local Election Officials, and a host of solutions. And so Election Officials data curating and keep in mind that the information that we get from are the Election Officials, they have that information and they can control that data. It is the most accurate and most accessed for the state voter requirements and aware of the e lek shun dates and deadlines and the Voter Registration, and aware of all of these. And so reviewing every 50 states and u. S. Territory, we are going to look at the ballot policies and they range from the legitimate straight forward form or basically, you pass through email a county jurisdiction from what you have voted regularly. So, i say that it is nice to have widgets here or there, but it is about the interactions that we have built. So are you going to leave me hanging there . So [ laughter ] we are here to provide the best Information Available to our, you know, the u. S. Voters here and oversea, and so, you know, everybody, and most of the people in the room well knows that elections are a yearround effort and it is not a once or twice a year thing, and it is every year, and noted that as it was noted erl earlier 178,000 voting precincts and we have a team at u. S. Vote that comes every single election across the country and tries to get as much information about the precinct and the elections and the deadlines and we harness that the information and collect it and provide for it the user base and for the state election offici officials and the thirdparty organizations and license them out as part of the service. So i close out by saying that, you know, we use specific technology as an example of accessibility for u. S. Citizens overseas. The technology is inexpensive and reliable and proven to work given that we have quite a few number of client s ths that areg our services to make sure that every citizen who desires to vote can vote no matter where where they are in the world. Thank you, stafford. I apologize for calling it the overseas foundation, and i know that susan is probably emailing me right now, but i have worked with susan for a number of year, and she did have the organization that was called the u. S. Vote foundation for a while now. And lastly, virginia. We wanted to have a perspective of listening to the domestic part of this, and then you and stafford coming in to tell us how it affects folks overseas, but you are focused on the oorganizations overseas and the processes, and can you tell us more about that . Yes, definitely. Thank you. My name is virginia, and im from the interNational Foundation of electoral systems, and we are a u. S. Based nonprofit organization. We work on issues related to democracy and governance around the world and every region, and we have probably been there or have been recently, and as part of that the Main Partners are the Election Commission and Civil Society groups in that country. I want to talk a little bit about the four main barriers that people with disabilities encounter, and id say both here in the u. S. As well as globally. My role is to make sure that all of the work that we are doing to the supporting the Election Commissions, and working with Civil Society groups is inclusive of people with disablt disabilities. So i think that the first thing to start out to say is that the being american, and we are an International Neutral nonprofit organization, but being american, of course, and being based here in d. C. , one of the first questions that i am often asked is about the u. S. Process. What happens here is of interest abroad and it does have an impact in particular on the Election Commissioners in terms of trying to persuade them to be per swaytive zif in the works persuasive in the works they are are doing, but still to that end, there are issues that people encounter and abroad. Four main areas they fall into. The first one being the most obvious the physical bareers, and next is related to information. People with disabilities dont receive information in accessible formats about where to go to vote, how the mark the ballot or who to vote for and who are the political platforms and how do the kacandidates difr from one another. And the third barrier is stigma. In particular, many countries where we are working there is a stigma associated with disabilities and some of it is discrimination and some of it is historical beliefs that maybe your an ses scestor did somethi wrong, and so that is why there is something wrong with your child. So there are misplaced myths in the places we are working, and the last barrier is related to the legal and policy bareers, and the lek shun commissions are not responsible for changing the laws, but a lot we can do within the policy review that is within their purview, and within the guides of the four main bareers and t barriers, as michelle mentioned, there is process in this country. In many of the countries where we work, many people look to us as the Gold Standard in terms of access. With that said, there are innovations happening in other countries that would be of interest here. One in particular of the philippines. There, just like here, most of the polling stations are held in schools. However, many of the schools and a majority of the schools there are not physically accessible. So the Disability Community along with ifis and the Election Commission ahead of the 2012 president ial election, they had a great idea and suggested why cant we vote in the shopping malls, because you mow, the shopping malls are the most accessible build ings in most countries with the companies that bant to make sure they get their money from everyone. So what the Election Commission did is that they signed an mou with s. M. Malls which is one of the biggest chains there and did a pilot with manila in the capital, and people with disabilities were registering to vote outside of the burger king. It is something that is really popular and they have now expanded it across the country so that people with disabilities can register in the shopping malls nationwide now, and you can imagine that the general public is like, hey, i would like to register to vote in the shopping mall, because it is much more convenient and they are now expanding it, and doing the pilots of the voting in the shopping malls as well. Right now, that is something that is specifically for the citizens with disabilities. Another area that i mentioned is related to information. So, something that is one of the most marginalized groups of the community is people with intellectual disabilities who are often left out of the political process where there is thinking that they would not want to participate, but they are interested because they have jobs and paying taxes and they would like to vote. Something that the new zealand Election Commission did is to produce a dvd to have people with intellectual disabilities telling the story of how the go to vote, and where to go and what to do if you have a question, and it is all in very simple and easy to understand language. This is again something that came about through a partnership of the Election Commission working directly with the Disability Community there. One of the other barriers that we had was related to attitudes and stigma. Something that happened in the doe mminican republic is that t have their own tv station, and so the month before there is an all day tv channel related to the electoral process. So they Work Together with the Disability Community to produce a video that was specifically to the point of it was to target the stagma, and showed people with disabilities in the jobs and showed them pledging allegiance to the flag and dominicans like the americans are very patriotic, and the images of the National Anthem and the flag in the background really appealed to the public the there. And so this is something that the Disability Community specifically asked the commission to do, because they were getting the pushback from their family members, and they said that they would like to go out to vote, and can you help me to get o to the polling station but the family members were like, why would you want to worry about that or this and it does not concern you. So that is something that the Election Commission did in partnership with the Disability Community, and this is to address the number one issue raised by the Disability Community there, and the last barrier is to legal and policy barrier, and policy as i said is something that is within the purview of the Election Commission that they can change. In guatemala, and i have the poll worker training manual here, and in the poll worker training manual, they have how to do the alphabet in sign language as well as how to say hello and goodbye and thank you in sign language. So all of the poll workers in guatemala for the last two National Level cycles have learned basic sign language and so this is something in addition to the the people with the social and intellectual disabilities, the Deaf Community is also feeling marginalized and so this is something that made a big impact there. And something that i would like to also talk about is that we find that people with disabilities that also have, or identified with a different marginalized group so say a woman with a disability or the woman of an ethnic origin with a disability and the young person, the barriers are compounded with the people who have multiple forms of identity, and identify with the groups. So a lot of the work that we do is to work with the groups representing different parts of the society to develop information campaigns that are inclusive. So i have a little mini poster here that was made in kenya for the elections last summer, last august, and the Election Commission developed a campaign specifically targeting the youth called why vote, and as part of the campaign they integrated the images of young people with disabilities and this is going to show a young man who is blind at the polling station casting his ballot. Something else that we have recently done is to work with the liberian Election Commission, and they had elections at end of last year, and developing a guide for the poll workers to target the b bareers of women with disabilities countered. So that is an issue raised from both the gender movement in the country as well as the Disability Community. It so is i will leave it there, but to say that the main Lesson Learned and michelle and i did not coordinate ob this, and that is that you need to coordinate with the people with disabilities themselves. Same as here in the u. S. And in other countries around the world, their the disability organizations are everywhere and there is usually a National Group and working at the sub level and groups with specific types of disabilities and groups representing all types of disabilities and no reason that we cant find people with disabilities to consult in the work that we are doing. And so the last thing is that i will make a quick plug that the u. S. Is looked at in the terms of the Good Practice examples and the one thank one thing that i do hear is that we have not ratified a u. N. Policy. It is a little bit difficult when i am asked, well, the u. N. Has not ratified this tree si and so the u. S. Has not done it, and why should we . But we have the ada and in many places it is copy and pasted from there to look at as a model bucks to have our International Space by ratifying that treaty would be great. I want to the thank all of you for being part of this, and i want to open it up for a couple of questions and have brenda signal me when we do the audience questions. The first question i have in basically listening to some of the other panels to today is talking about how things are improving and one of the ways that things are improving is the use of the internet. So i wanted to have each of you to talk a little bit about how you feel that the internet can improve the process. We had heard about the internet voting and not about that, but more of the Voter Registration, and getting the ballots out and things like that as well. So if you could talk more about those sorts of things of using the internet to improve access to the ballot, i would appreciate that. Cameron . I think that number one of the internet it has been a fantastic tool, and to me, that is when you are thinking of the information and getting the inforpmation, you are no longer thinking of the print a automatically or even, i remember, gone are the days of getting updated set of en cyclo pede yas, because it is straight to the internet. And so, if you are look for the closest restaurant or what some candidate might be standing for, that is where you go. So the use of the internet and figuring tout ways of the election administrator could interface with whatever information candidates are putting out as a way to get it to the voters and not necessarily advocating for it, but if there is somebody who has, say, registered as a ka candidate, the voters themselves have the clear way to know that they are registered as a candidate and they are candid e candidates and how to get the information about that person. So taking the resources such as, you know, my customized speed, and using it for the voters vngs so they can advantages so they can understand what each candidate is saying in realtime is a huge benefit that can be done, but in terms of the right now, we have seen a lot of the registrations since we opened up in virginia with the online Voter Registration, and it is helping tremendously. It has also been kind of unexpected surge, because having certain places for voters to place now it is voting anyplace. And we have also incorporated the ucava into the processes and looking at it from the electronic process that goes through question by question, because you are understanding that it is going to ultimately wind up in what you think of as the standard type of form, but it is asking it in completely sort of userfriendly ways. That is the election administrator, that is very interesting to kind of watch and play around with to see what the voters experience is as opposed to the standard custom form to have notarized and this or that and where it is sort of like the turbotax style, you know, method, where where it is simple questions going through and yes or no. Does this apply to you or not, instead of really needing a manual to understand what that is. So that alone has been a huge help in the last few years, and as more and more states come online with the online registration, you know, it is going to help to a Election Administrators down the road, because it is going to put in instantaneously the methods for voters to access to a administration piece. And so more importantly towards the future, but, you know, voters, h themselves, who might have some sort of disability in terms of visual disability that they might have the tools bui builtin to allow them to navigate those questions on the screen to their registration process, but, you know, i think that again, looking towards the future is that we need to make sure that whatever is offered out there as an official piece is done so with the eye on the Disability Community so it is fully interactive and not move and click and do this. Increasing registration, and possibly inkeysing the accuracy and hopefully at some point in the future, we will get to some point where it is that i have move and filled out the change of address and done that, so it is automatically going to pop up, and say, hey, you want to go through this again. I wish we could have had ten other groups on the panel, because it is that important. You are saying the things that are popping in my head of like talking to the manufacturers about using your own device to cast your ballot and have that scanned in and being able to print it out and moving forward with that as well. So there are so many other aspects that i would love to cover with the panel, but we just dont have enough time. Stafford, any . Well, so this may seem trite, but the internet obviously is, you know, the great equalizer, and it has provided access to everyone who has Internet Connection anywhere in the world. The information that if you are going to the www. U. S. Vote. Org, you will find what you need to access the ballot or register to vote in the state or the jurisdiction or ttorres dense a the internet has a allowed individuals to use their smartphones, and their laptops or the ipads or anything that they can utilize with the internet to get what they are looking for. Obviously a dark side of the internet as we all know that sometimes there is misinformation out there or disinformation out there, and so we have to be careful what we read and process and what we ingest that information. It is Charles Stewart who was on the panel earlier that when we have the data, we have to be mindful to data and what it means and how to process it. And the same is true for understanding, you know, when your Voter Registration deadlines are, and the voting dates are, and when to submit the absentee voter information, and so this where it is harnessed in one place, and so when somebody asks, swhen the next vote or the next county clerk or elect the next sheriff or the elect the next senator, and you know, from my state or the territory or the representative from my territory. That has Information Age has brought us, and that is what the internet has brought us to make things more accessible, but as i mentioned earlier in 2004, the overseas Vote Foundation at the time was the first to automate the flop, the access online and shifting away from the paper. As you are seeing that the transition from the old ways of Voter Registration shifted online. So that is the thats one way of how the internet is the great equalizer and that the citizens living overseas in our case dont have to fill out the piece of paper and get it back and then the time line to get it back to you, and you can easily get it quickly within 30 seconds is of determining, you know, your state and residence and location and getting the forms to process the Voter Registration application, and the ballot request and sending it in to the local Election Officials. Okay. Michelle. I think that cameron gave a great answer to the question, because the technology is drastically changing the lives of people with disabilities, and it is making things infinitely more accessible than they have ever been, and we have to leverage it. People being able to register to vote online is amazingb and electronic balloting is amazing. Voting electronically is not available, but for people to tapin at home and access it and complete it, and that is a gamechange nor people with disabilities in the caveat that it has to be accessible and i can use the insider knowledge that they have to be 2. 0 compliant, and so i have my own tech jargan and t jargon and always, so you are have to be accessing things that work for you, but it is changing the way that people with disabilities and the people who are overseas are interacting with the election process and it is going to be changed for all voters eventually and it is coming whether we are ready or not, and so we have the be ready to make it secure and available simultaneously. Virginia . Yes, the internet can be used for the voters with disabilities can look up on the election, commissions website to see if the polling station is accessible. That is something that the commission in saskatchewan does in canada. They can look up, to see what disability you have and if the polling station is accessible. If it is physically accessible for you to get into the building, but once you get in, there is not a accessible toilet or whatever it s and so you can make a determination, this is make a determination, this is fine for me or not fine for me. Captions Copyright National cable satellite corp. 2008 captioning performed by vitac
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