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St. Louis. Im especially thanking them for the support on this event. Hillbilly, and a list in one of the youngest state representatives in history and does for the rural south. This important book relates. Part memoir and part historical cultural and might vanishing country is an eyeopening journey, the past present and future. Their hometown of denmark South Carolina, mike vanishing country illuminates the pride but continues to fertilize the soil of one of the poorest states in the nation pretty traces his fathers right to become simply carmichael Martin Luther king. A hero and a member of the student nonviolent coordinating committee. To explore the south dwindling rural black working class. Many of whom can trace their ancestry back seven generations. It was poetic personal history where all i to the crisis affecting the other forgotten men and women. In the media seldom acknowledges. His telling members, and neighbors and friends. He humanizes the struggles that shaped their lives to gain access to healthcare and make ends meet as the factories on the shut down move overseas and a hole on two precious traditions. To force their path forward without coming to the spare pretty my vanishing country is also a love letter. His fathers life lessons have shaped him into his newborn son who he hopes to carry the family name. He made history in 2006 at just 22 years old, someone who had been in office longer than he has been a life to become the youngest member of the South Carolina state legislature in the youngest black american to be elected. In 2014 he was the democratic nominee for governor in the state of South Carolina. Sellers is a political analyst and served in the South Carolina state legislature. Recently named to Time Magazine 40 under 40 list, hes also a practicing attorney. He will be in conversation enea served as twoterm mayor of south bend indiana and wasnt democratic candidate of the president of the United States in 2020. A graduate of Harvard University and a scholar. And it in the u. S. Navy reserve and became a lieutenant when h n 2014. In elsa candidacy for president in november 2021 the Iowa Caucuses becoming the first openly gay person to ever win a president ial primary in the caucus. He authored the shortest way home in 2019. And now i am very proud to welcome them both and allowed to plot even though youre at home. It is great to be with you. Thank you shane, and from the young man from South Carolina, i just want to say thank you for welcoming me into your homes. With your friends at and your families. And to pete, weve known each other for very long period of time and i really, how well you did for president of the United States. We all know you are extremely capable but yet you still shocked even our greatest expectations. And we set expect so much more from you now and is a double edged sword threat and think will for your friendship and your love and your kind words. And thankful that you are spending an hour with me here today. It means a great deal. Pete is a pleasure. Its been a lot of ups and downs. Things that come to pass even since the end of the president ial campaign. It makes the conversations that we are having. Its great to be reunited and great to see that your pandemic thing so congratulations. Mr. Sellers im entering into my Denzel Washington thing right now. Liz told me to make sure that i talked to pete about it. Pete there you go. All of her dress codes are being adjusted. Im really excited to talk to you. I know that we have q a later. But before we jump into this, the substance of this book. Im curious, exactly in one book in the memoirs as well. And how you found it and theres a lot of personal and political observations out in the world fred how has your reception been. Bakari i was starting this process and i didnt want to write a memoir. I was trying to write a political book. But no one wanted to buy it. So put down 20 30 different publishers an opportunity. I wrote sample chapters. I did everything he possibly could. That you could do to get a book opportunity. Finally harpercollins, and they said, tell me your story. And i just told them about where i was coming from, the poor rural south. In the charleston massacre. I just put my heart on paper. I was nervous and anxious because as you know when you write your truth down. You put everything you have onto this sheet of paper. And so im excited in a really anxious and hope people take it and read it with a sense of understanding. Had to write this book quicker than most free to run four five month period and the reason being is because somebody that we both look up to her somebody had leaf with a college friend, has a book coming out at the end of this year. By the name of barack obama. So my publisher said when we do, you have to finish this book so you can get it out before then. [laughter]. I was really excited about this. Put everything i had into this. Pete congratulations. It is a terrific read. And very timely. You mentioned just now to tragedies that really in many ways are two pillars of the story. In the first, the master, was something that you described in many ways was the most important day of your life. It happened before you were even born. I should say and im embarrassed to admit this but i was not taught anything about the orange massacre throwing afraid of the new the 60s. And certainly learn about what had happened to the killing of student protesters. Recently in adversity acknowledging that. But it wasnt until later that i learned about the massacre of students fighting to integrate a Bowling Alley on the campus of the historically black college South Carolina university. Is one of the many memorable experiences that i was blessed to have. I had an opportunity to visit their word i imagine has backgrounds with so many, the educating people what it was like and what happened. What if you could share a little bit about first of all, i think we can do a better job as a country of understanding. And just acknowledging what happened it. And what it was like to grow up with something that was so defining for your father. In this happened before you were born. Bakari ptolemy thank you for using your platform and bidding on my father and exploring that little bit of history that not pity hundred many people know about. My father said, you know where freed piece campaign, he came over at lloyd to walk around with him and talk to him about 68 as he referred to it. I said there will be a really good event. You did not have to do it but you took that moment to lift those persons up. And give to those young men who died. Im still a little bit angry to write about it. I see the toil. I have seen in the fact that his eyes dont talk with the used to. From shedding too many tears. And from carrying the burdens of the generations. I know that it was shot another he was in prison. Talk about the injustice. But i also talk about the trauma that he experienced from that generation. That is what i want people to understand. That trauma that existed. My sister was born while my father was in prison. My father had a felon and basically was hard and. Imagine being a black men in the south operated so my family had undergone through so much trauma that it is not just one generation the deals with this. It is more than one. And going up in our household, we all knew two things, one it was amazing growing up with a hero in the kitchen. It is a blessing. It truly a great experience. Second, i grew up around so many people, carmichaels, the jesse jacksons, lets overlook my politics my life and the cultu culture, everything through the lens of this movement. I was grateful for it. My father taught me lessons. He said he who walks among us, and he didnt want us to think that it was just about those people but he also wanted us to know about the other heroes. Pete so you grow up surrounded by these giants in the civil Rights Movements. And you talk in many ways about such a responsibility that comes with that. It was audacious thank to run for office at the end you did. This is something that was a special. Im a big fan of running before people saying its your turn. But i think, one of the defining dynamics in your book is this question of where you doing things there little bit out of step for your age. Of one on one hand your family described you as an old soul. And yet on the other hand, because your tall, people have no idea that your 16 and youre in college. And innocently your mother wishes you a happy 17th birthday. I think you were 20 or 21 when you are sworn in. We we had equal results. [laughter]. Yet the dynamic and particularly, i certainly felt when i was running for mayor here in town, the fact that i was very young actually helped read and really interesting it helped me with older voters the most. Very similar dynamics of him when i was running for president. Many of the voters most excited about a young candidate precisely being young. Those were the older folks. I did not find that same enthusiasm and generational. It always existed with the alert. If you talk about not just help voters look at you. But what is it like to walking into a place, i assume as a candidate, as a legislature, and people who were there for a very long time pretty your are a young black man. Was a like and how did you think about how to negotiate your age in each of these steps. Bakari thats a good question. When i ran had the sense that if not me then who. If not now than women. You know the questions very well. I had done everything really young. I would get asked why are you so young. Then after christmas, the kobe and first grade in the next year that will be in third grade. I skipped to pass in a whole. And then there was a question if it would skipped knife. You made the personal choice not to do that. I chose not to be said it really good friend. Then in high school as well, college at 16. I know my law degree by 23. But one of the things i had these i wanted to run for office. I didnt think that you had to wait in line. It just you, i didnt think and wait in line to run for office. Didnt think i had to get approval to run for office. And talk about the fact that i called my opponent at the time, say the and informed him i was going to let him know and have the courtesy that i was going to run against him. And we didnt speak it all until two days after, become a couple days later one. When i walked into the capital, not only being young, you probably got this, when you knock on doors you have this resolved the joint to knock on every single door. Im not going to go to the polls because i really wanted to meet people where they are. And this firm belief that no matter what color you work or republican or democrat or whatever you wanted to have a Grocery Store in a community that you didnt want your grandparents having to choose whether or not there were going to pay their utility bills regular pharmaceutical drugs. We went through these steps in my mind that i could literally change the lives of people. Was he getting jaded by reality and still not really jaded by that reality. I was the agitators son. I was walking into a steakhouse where its the same state of my family through so much trauma. I was there to help change that. Putting face on that. Tear down the systems of injustice from within. I dont know how successful it was evident tried mind artists. And so there was that and then there was this sense of being young that everybody looked at me because i was 21 or 22 years old. So i was the youngest by i think like a decade. And so everybody is staring into the first time you open your mouth of the like one steve which are all about. Who is this young dude, this young buckeye from denmark. Hes the son of this hero. What is the like. I think people really remember but when i was elected, madame went outside and i would take a deep breath. I did so in the office with the confederate flag. Pete and you mention his butt up in 1961. Which ultimately says something about life than. That is not a flight from the civil war. It was a flight that was put up with the middle finger to the civil Rights Movement. In nonviolent resistance and protest. All of these are going to my head and every single day for such an amazing feeling because every single day and had a chance to help people and save lives. But it was being young, being black, being a democrat and being a young black democrat where was. Pete theres another set of questions that i think are revolved especially for young candidates around the subject of ambition. One of the things that i appreciate about your book is you mentioned at the age of 17, once you start, your intern in washington. You started picturing yourself running. You are in your front or slicing advising the data from the district. So the reason is on my mind is this question, i think because of the american political cultural little bits. A revival. If youre not supposed to reveal that event vividly occur to you that you might run for office until that day. He say a lot of people came and told me that i should run and i didnt think i should that actually they pointed out. Many people, thats truly their story but your expected to present your admission to run that way. When review that is a story or not. I am thinking about an impediment talking about the potential running mates question. That aside. I am thinking about the fact that you bring bring transparent about it. I wonder about the expectations that former culture around whether youre supposed to admit that you have a level of aspiration or omission or not. When anybody was anywhere near being expected to run, certainly as president has revealed themselves doing an ambitious person. Beware not to. I am wondering how the different how different his fermenter for women or maybe for blacks and it is for whites. Bakari i think what stacy is going through is unlike anything seen before. Being a black female seeking that position of Vice President , he cant go by the normal rules pretty cant simply do this. It means that everyone else has done. You have to position yourself and take advantage of your opportunity. Im not mad at her for doing that. For me, i had just lost my mind, what was i thinking about. How would i challenge this. It was the chair of the council, before he was shower in the county Council Committee delivered mail and then he before that he delivered meals. He knew everyone. And there were people in line to take his place. And so what was i doing and how did i have the audacity to skip over them. But what warms my spirit is that even when i was running for office, elected in 2006. To. Pete you are an elected official long before i was. Bakari barack obama was just, i dont i love this but he was just someone who had given an amazing speech in 2004. And he was a United States senator. He was the person that we listen to in terms of a young black elected official. Because patrick had reached that plateau. And so, having i guess people thought it to be somewhat unconscionable belief itself. But youre right, letting people know that i wanted to serve them. I was getting eliminated, i was getting invited in i was getting invited and see if i could date their daughter. Pete you never know when you knock on the door. Bakari you never know. I think that the ambition that i displayed and i think the omission that you displayed. In stacy displays, is refreshing. Because it is authentic. And transparent and people are tired of these games. I do think it is a thin line. I try not to step on that line and struggle that line. And try to model. Pete thats absolutely right ms. Could have that northstar. Another thing you are very transparent about in the book, is really striking. Not a lot a frankly minute politics are willing to speak about anxieties and fear. To speak about crying. Youre talking about everything from the weight of history to the effect of think somebody classmate who died, not somebody i knew well but it gave me a chance to understand little bit more. The experience of that is a harrowing experience. Were so thankful in the book, you ended the book with good news. First your wife, but complications from childbirth and then also what your daughter went through. So first i am interested in why you decided to take this to ensure that. And secondly, with the reactions of the way your book has been received as struck you or shaped the way you think that either individually or matter of policy. We can shine a light on what it takes for all of us to confront the Mental Health challenges that everybody, faces shouldnt be so hesitant perhaps to talk about it. Bakari the Mental Health aspect was something lethargic for me. Especially as a black man pretty because like minutes men are not to talk about mentalhealth. And we know i therapy either. Its always hard to break that stereotype. Here i am have a beautiful family. Im a lawyer, unkindly my life in a way that i can be an example for others. I guess i suffer with anxiety. They feel like very rational, things that youre dealing with. In your suffocating. And i wrote that chapter, anxiety of black man. Because for me, thats what it is. Use that fear to drive me. To make the most of every single time i have. And you mentioned that to going through these issues with my wife and my daughter being diagnosed with the disease. And days on the trans plant waiting list. Everything day, she was really small. Her liver was not running sufficiently and should this really big belly and she was yellow. And she was so sweet. But you can see literally everything day, your daughter dying in front of you. And talk about all of these traumas. What i really wanted people to know is that i know my trauma may not be yours. He really wanted to lay it out. I have perseverance. And i just want you to know that even though my trauma may not be yours, we can get through this together. And especially during this coronavirus time and the uncertainty in the things that go wrong with integrated for me it was really personal did and i also tell people that this book is really aspirational. It i dont want people to think by any stretch of imperfect. But then show my failures in this book. Its a way that i believe that people can garner some understanding. Politically, especially the issue of the mortality. This issue elisabeth warren, losing dad, and, i mean, others. Black women or four times more likely to died during childbirth than their white counterparts. So i just wanted to be able to shine a light on that. My wife was extremely strong and she passed the strength onto my daughter. I dont wish that last year upon anyone, almost lose your wife and daughter. Over the same period of time. It is like a car crash every day for an entire year. And you know how your heart feels at that moment. And so uniquely enough everyday, we are counting out all of the store. So even in quarantine, we say everybody is healthy. We have been down that road. But i wanted to pull everything out. And i think that perversely enough, one of the things that donald trump has been characterized is doing is being for longer, people no longer, i think of subscribing to a culture but people now the thing that they want, any colby char was so good and people actually enjoy the book because there is a value added to being your authentic self. One of the things that i remember most about this Campaign Recently and going through this authenticity notice in your husband on the front of Time Magazine and i utilize that image for me in recent political history, probably i do this i would say you gave the second best speech, it was really good but that picture for me was right below when barack obama and jacob in philadelphia for the white house together and jacob as barack obama, does your here for like mine and brock leaned over in the looked young four yearold judges here. The picture view has been on time, also it was helpful in aspirational just the true values of what the country can be. Like that picture brock in the four yearold black kid. That level of authenticity. Thats giving your all and pouring your heart to the world. Its what ive tried to do in this book as well. Pete you give me a great honor by putting that image. Another picture youre talking about, it is extraordinary. Thank you for that. So you want to clear that up . I still have it. Im actually in a texas group. No one really read it thats close to me. This is new. My mom hasnt read it. I was joking with my sister and brother, it was going to be a weird thing. [laughter] so, no im a decent player, im better in my head. Do only young people have the burning desire to meet people where they are, is it a lack of fear . I would say that this is a trace more prevalent in young people. Thank you for your question, kristin. That means a lot personally. I do think its a trait that a lot of young people have. We have generation that thinks they can change the world. Gen z, sounds like the end of the world. The generation thats leading the charge on changing our gun laws throughout the country and so its a fascinating, fascinating generation and i say that every ounce of change weve had in the country from civil Rights Movement, the womens Rights Movement to gay Rights Movement has been led by young people and a lot of it has to do with the fact that we still we still believe in word like hope, trust, believe and just. Very good question, kristi. Yeah, its a great question. Part of that is courage. I imagine is the quality that sometimes its good not to know what you dont know and have sense, things maybe thats not unique to young people but often there for young people who step into the arena. Youre right. The generation that pains me now to admit that i dont belong in the same generation. You see the energy and to me the thing that really strikes me the activism driven reality. Young people know who the longer you plan on on this earth, the more you deal with consequences and decisions that are being made right now about climate change. So, you know, its always been young people. If you think of activist generation of Civil Rights Era and after the really moving and had chance to spend students, more importantly got dose of inspiration from energy and intelligence and motivation that young people have. The next question besides voting, what can citizens do to advance the narrative of Public Health and Health Disparities and as we define our new normal. I think that first of all, we are getting a false choice from many of our leaders now between whether or not we can air on the side of Public Health or air on the side of thriving economy. I think a good Public Health strategy is good for our economy and i think that some of the polling we have seen recently about reopening and such is vital. I think one of the things that i write about and its something that pete, you know, is that its peeling with this data its very important. With data it is peeling the band aid of racism and injustice in the country. I got into a public fact, jarome adams, general, after comments, and, you know, basically telling black folks to pull their pants up and stop smoking and you have to look at the facts that my community, for example, you live in food desert where you dont have access of fruits and vegetables, lack of Quality Health care. Infrastructure is like a joke on jay leno. I said jay leno, that doesnt exist anymore. He was funny, he was hilarious. And so, you know, living next to brownfield, implicit bias in the way people of color are treated in the Health Care Delivery system, we have to look at all of the things in totality. Alabama has the highest rate death in the union. Detroit, milwaukee, are diego at highest rates, having a good plan that addresses injustices are good for our economy and is fair for us all. Not only does it show the disparity but also means weaknesses, disempowerment of workers and lack of access of health care, no sick days, working through the discriminatory patterns. Its a weakness in our country that we cant go back to but i want to mention that this ties back to unglamorous issue areas. One thing in my book, a lot of people, some people respond to the story, my favorite part to write about. They were excited to hear about notre dame. Theres a tinny fraction who love the discussion of waste water systems. A good example, mayors love, so you talk about internship, for instance, worked out and directly affected everyone. Issues at local level than state level. When we talk about Water Infrastructure and also issues of racial justice. Thats right. The perky, nerdy pursuit of people who were only interested in engineering until flint happened. Rural places like s p who have been living for flintlike conditions for years or decades. Access to clean Drinking Water or Convenient Store or access to fresh fruits and vegetables. Not because they chose to but because of the conditions and you can draw direct not only are we talking about black and brown folks or other conditions that made them to catch covid19 and also more lethal once they do. You discuss rural hospitals, what that means tragically for your own families. Access to the hospital that she was during childhood. All of the things connect together and it is systematic and its simply neither possible nor desirable because thats where we were before because thats how we came to this point. Thank you. Difficulty getting a job parallels a lot of st. Louisans who were part of the uprising, how do we do a better job of creating career ladders and activists like your dad today . I think its a challenge, it was a challenge then and its a challenge now. Activism is still something that is profoundly messy and frowned upon because it shape it is cultural norms. Its the voice of the unheard, right, its when the voice, reaches the extent that it lets out in that fashion and so that level of activism is still frowned upon in this country. We can look at anyone from kaepernick and down and all of our friends in black lives matter and the protesters. What i can also say that that activism, being part of something more than yourself, when history is written and when we look back at your activism, although it wasnt me, the few that decided to give up themselves and stand on the front lines in that quest for freedom, in that quest for equality and justice, a lot we remember kindly. In the meantime in order to be activist you had a certain skill set. You need to make sure you home the skill set. If youre an activist, youre a decent communicator and decent organizer and you can utilize those skills that the organizing and those skills that are communicating to propel you into whatever career choice you may have. I tell a story that not many people know about samuel l. Jackson in the book. Samuel jackson got suspended for college for a year. As you see that trajectory, realizing that activism and go to places that accept your your fervent desire to be part of change, you know, a lot of that means that there are a lot of College Campuses in particular, the culture of activism. If youre a young person in the front line, go to place that can propel you to be in line with other activists. Youll be surprised how many people sitting right now who, you know, sat in and protested as well. I just want to mention that this transition that its something that happened recently. You mentioned in passing but so striking. You i will read it. You were talking about dr. King. You say people want to hold them up as cotton candy political figures. Yes. Revolutionary identity. I will always view Martin Luther king, jr. As negro who had for 37 Approval Rating and was taken from us because of hate. Now there are holidays, there are statutes, right, south bend, one of the things that we did we put up a statute of the moment when the legendary university of notre dame and dr. King, famous photograph arm in arm in field. Participated in this event, but that was not the most popular decision that he made at the time. He had to answer to that, and the very things that are now kind of were incredibly politically controversial and dangerous and so we can look on the bright side but theres pathway toward seeing radical and warning signs that moral clarity to be accepted in your time. Just tell me real quickly, dr. King at his best, he didnt have he didnt do gallup Approval Rating. The last one they did was in 66 and what they realized Approval Rating hoovered around low 30s, against the fact that this president of the United States 42 and 48 . Donald trumps Approval Rating is stronger than Martin Luther king, jr. s at the time of the death. Just to pinpoint on the irony at history will look at those who stand up for justice no matter the consequences. Hi, my name is liz, im 17, i live in the midwest in st. Louis, missouri. I was wondering for mayor pete, do you have any advice on teens can advocate for themselves especially in regard to Lgbtq Community . Absolutely. Well, first of all youre doing it by speaking to the issues and being right up front about it. Look, sometimes in this country theres still a struggle awareness of how different it is depending where you are to to be out or questioning or anything thats not mainstream. Any part of Lgbtq Community, it means one thing in one geography and one in another and struggles did not end when Marriage Equality came to this country in 2015. The first thing i would say is representation. Be ready to be out and step forward, whether running in Political Office or in a community role. Its amazing how much changes when theres just that first awareness that person like you that you see somewhere in a position of responsibility or visibility. If i was in high school i knew exactly zero, as a matter of fact, its not that i was the only gay kid there, its just, you know, nobody was willing to everybody is looking to the right and looking to the left. I wondered how that would have changed my awareness and my ability on the journey of coming to terms with who i was let alone having candidates in office who let others know who they can see themselves there. Yes, its a matter of activism, yes, its a matter of polly but sometimes also matter of presence. Letting somebody see that you know who you are. You never know who that is going to empower, you dont realize in watching you and i think thats going to matter as much as very real and very important work we have to do on everything from violence against black transwomen to dealing with the Health Issues and Health Equity issues that are affecting so many Lgbt Community and in particular those communities, intersections of different patterns over gender identity, sexuality, race and economics. Let me ask you a question real quick, pete, i know we are taking questions, but i want to ask a question. I want to know about hearing the burden, that may not be the right word but such a sense of pride within the Lgbtq Community when you ran and when you won and cheering you on, did you feel a sense of pressure, did you feel a burden, a sense of responsibility to go out every single day and do representative of a community that has been oppressed throughout the south especially where youre campaigning, throughout certain parts of the midwest still that very stagnant political thought, lack of progressive ideals and ideology, did you feel a sense of pressure and responsibility having to represent for the first time in the main stage the Lgbtq Community and stand up strong every single day you went outside speaking for this community . No question that you feel that and youre aware of that responsibility and youre humbled by it, first of all, knowing that theres such diversity within the Lgbtq Community and trying to find a way to make sure that people whose experience might be different from mine see reflected in what we are doing balancing with the fact that i was running to be president , of course, only of gay america but the United States, so finding a way to live into who you are and people outside of the Community Want to put you in a certain box and sometimes inside. Sometimes grow up on a certain definition or wrong way to be clear are also looking at you but the thing thats most powerful to you is when someone let me know campaign and made it easier for them to have conversation with their participants parents about coming out or conversation with a friend or a loved one. Sometimes not unusual for someone traveling to come up to me, especially people who were from an older generation who never thought it would be possible, eye contact, not speak to me, just shake my hand and eye contact and would have a conversation about what this meant for them and i knew that that created a responsibility to try every step of the way to to reflect well on on others in my Community Whether or not their politics lined up perfectly lined up with mine. Yeah. The question ive always wanted to ask, you know, it was a question of blackness, are you going to be president for black america, cornell west and articulated. Im not president to be president of plaque america but the president of the United States. Its fascinating the parallels. Im asking you to become secretary of state, i think that will be a hell of a book to write. We will take another question, another video question [inaudible] my question to bakari, how can people have conversation about race and privilege and how can people acknowledge the humanity of others without letting hate and anger get in the way. I think that understanding other struggles, understanding where people come from allow for us to have very Difficult Conversations about the issue of race and had those conversations with the sense of compassion, with is sense of empathy and also giving people the benefit of their humanity. My greatest fear is that, you know, black children in this country, theres a large segment of the population that do not give them the benefit of their humanity, not only did the book come out during a pandemic where we are talking about the coronavirus and Racial Disparity but also talking about Ahmaud Arbery and breonna taylor, ahmaud got killed in lunching, whether or not michael brown, sandra, walter scott, the list goes on and on, even clemente kingsley. I wrote this book because i wanted to spark conversation and hopefully understanding. You know, we would say, you know, you can teach people arithmetic and you can teach people science and teach about an saturday night egypt and rome. This is an amazing opportunity to learn and understand that way we are prepared to have a difficult conversation thats necessary and i believe great answer. All i can add to that the only way to have conversations is out loud and in good faith and they will be uncomfortable because the search for understanding especially involve a lot and try to understand how to see it through somebody elses eyes but probably thats why stories are so powerful, your story is power ful. Literature is powerful because they allow us to see in what we dont know based on what we do. I dont know what its like to be to walk into a place like the South Carolina state legislature as a young black democrat but you describe what its like and as somebody who knows what its like to walk into a room and and be uneasy, that little threat of connection. Everybody knows what its like to be human being and when you read about what its like to go through the experience that your family went through. My experience couldnt be more different than woman and child facing disparities. I know what its like to encounter something thats outside of your control, and so we take those pieces of what we might understand just because we are people and connect those to things that we will never understand and if we have the listening ear and people have courage to share stories, sometimes grab you by the collar and shake you a little bit, metaphorically speaking, of course, shake my understanding of what i knew and what i didnt, through the lens of their experience. Thats the only way that we will get to where we can. One thing that we have in common is we all know what it is a person and also that we can build into the things that we dont. I think your question is the question of our time. Yeah. Weve got to find ways to do this before its too late. I think the future of the american project depends on it and, you know, in particular the the experience you described anchored in this historical massacre, the orange massacre, what happened in mother emmanuel theres every reason to doubt theture the future. Thats my challenge and thats what i tell people. I love this country so much. I love the promise that it is supposed to display for all of its children and im going to push to ensure that everyone no matter who they love, no matter what they look like have access to that American Dream because i dont want this country to vanish vanish ideals any longer and the Political Climate that we are in now and employee what Abraham Lincoln called the better angels of our nature and thats the only way to come together and answer questions directly. I hope we can come together with understanding compassion, empathy and humanity and thats the only way that we can actually heal which is what our country needs. We have time for one more question. So im going to ask the top, what is state legislate hour thank god i chose the right person and inside the state legislature, built a library, beacon of hope. A place people with k go can go and read and get internet. Something that i was proud to accomplish. I want to thank both of you for being here. Thank you so much, you are very inspiring to me personally and a lot of our viewers, so thank you so much for being here tonight. Before we close, thank you pete so very much for joining me on this journey and if you have an opportunity to visit left bankbooks please do, pete has a better book than both myself please give it a chance. Thanks for that, thanks for the kind words, great to be with left bank books. Congratulations again on that great story. Here are some some of the cut bestselling nonfiction books, topping the list is Time Magazines National Political correspondent molley, the life of nancy pelosi, collection of essays by Barbara Aaron and after that, thoughts on leadership in manifesto of moral revolution and new yorker writer examines selfdeception in trick mirror. Wrapping up our look at some of the best selling nonfiction books according to washingtons politics and pros store, Prime Minister winston churchill, you can watch them online at booktv. Org. Bingewatch book tv this summer, settle in and watch several hours of your favorite authors, saturday we are featuring bestselling author, author of a dozen books, detroit story, barack obama the story and most recent Good American family and watch saturday june 27th as we feature Pulitzer Prize winning author david mccullough, bingewatch book tv on cspan2. And now on book tv we are showing programs about u. S. President s. First this past february alexis coe

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