Getting ready to leave after president bush the second and getting ready to go until Hillary Clinton brought her in the office and said, talk to me about what youre doing and she said, im doing a lot and Hillary Clinton decided she was just the right person to create a brandnew job for her and the job was special representative to muslim communities around the world. That little job. [laughter] National Security son all, First Time Ever filled position in the state department, but most important for me is shes a very good friend. When she was at the state department i was at the state department and we worked together but i was always amazed at how incredible by smart she is. Strategic inner thinking and she has a way of saying things that you will understand and these are complex problems and when we talk about violent extremism, you once said to me, if you knew what i knew you wouldnt sleep at night, which, of course, made me not sleep at night. [laughter] i knew that i couldnt think of things that would be so bad that would come close on some of the issues that sarah was working on. What we are dealing with is an ideological battle and calls for a different type of response and its very well detailed in the book. How you win what seems to be a problem, so theres a line in the book where you say, this is intractable but this is not, violent extremism, maybe we should begin by you talking about what it means to have open power. Well, first of all, good morning, and i am really delighted to be in madison. Ive been hearing about madison for a long time from han information ah and i often say and this is the true, that one of the best gifts that was ever given to me as the special representative from the muslim communities was the opportunity to work with hannah and get to know her and we will get the circumstances under which we met. One of the things that have puzzled me, smart people that know that we have smart people out there and scientists out there who are trying to figure out a cure, there are other issues where we think this is going to take, you know, everything weve got for 200 years and then we will never be able to figure out, some of us might say that for Climate Change but we will go there another time, but when we look at the appeal of the ideology of hate of us versus them, thats not an intractable problem. Youre not born hating. You learn how to hate. So seems to me after all the work that that ive been privileged to do, we ought to take it seriously, what do we need to do. It is incumbent upon each of us to think think more strategically because it makes a difference in environment which we live but very important that we make sure that both the legislative branch from the government and executive branch of the government understand that for population in america is not going to sit back and say hate is okay, its not what we stand for and it isnt about a problem over there with some group like the socalled Islamic State or alqaeda or boko haram. We get White Supremacists on the rise, we get neo nazis on the rise. When you ask the question about the intractability of this, its not intractable, solutions are available right now, secondly, you talk about one of the things i end the book with and thats a particular diagnosis in terms of what is within our government, around how we solve problems and this book talks about the solutions very critically, government has a role to play and so do corporations and so do regular citizens, we will get into this but open power is an assessment based on my time in government, when we look at what our options are, tools in the tool box, i see and you know that our colleagues as smart as they are, theres a way to do things, so with hard power the military executes things in a very particular way, they study, you know, path to military endeavors and they learn what they must do, they build machinery for the future wars, they have a whole system in place, with soft power, we are looking at the department of states, our tool on the tool box are super limited. We have been looking at things the way we designed the system for the cold war and i think, okay, we are dealing with ideology, here are the bucket of things that we can be doing, the bucket of things that we can be doing, i say thats not enough and 21st century where we have a rise of technology in a way that we could never have imagined, demographic of digital natives, millennials and generation z who are absorbing content in ways that we are all reading in the paper all of the time and we know that there are theres a surge in what can happen with ai and other things in terms of how to get content or what they believe but im saying government, listen, you cant use 20th century tools for 21st century environments, open power says lets open, lets look at things differently, sort of a Design Thinking for government, what do we need at the policy table to help us think about what it is we need to do, government often goes outside and talks to an expert, maybe brings them in, have a round table, we have done that, very, very interesting, they go off and we go on with usual stuff. Thats in the for every problem but for the kind of thing we are talking about, i want to see historians at the table, i want to see anthropologist and stenographers and people who think different about culture to help us understand what is happening to millennial young people who are absorbing and now generation z that are absorbing this ideology. You were traveling 80 countries or so, she just came from london. Last night. [laughter] how do we, the scale of what needs to have is so enormous breaking to doable parts is the challenge, working with government which you have at the highest of levels, as have i, we realized that the congress to appropriate money, they want shortterm answers, they want to see a victory and the program that we funded did it do what we said it would, how do we get the culture and where the real money is which is in government to learn longterm, to not decide that every Little Program has an answer by the next appropriations bill, how do we do that because the state department didnt do that when we were there . Well, we we have to think very differently about what it is our goals are. If our goals are in fact, to radically change the environment so that the majority of young people, not all of them, can push back against hate, if thats what a goal is, then Congress Needs to understand that the way in which we are asking questions have to change, you cannot ask questions the way you would for the department of defense to say, is that fighter going to the new, you know, piece of equipment that weve spent 3 billion on, is that going to work, im not against hard power, i think its important in some circumstances, this is not a solution that means that plane, that satellite, number of troops will fix the problem, this requires congress to say, our excellent colleague, former colleague who are in the department of state that are in embassies around the world have the capacity to do something really remark financial they are given the tools and we are asking them to do things with one hand tied behind their back with no money to actually execute and the issue here is scale, hannah, it isnt a schedule of program here and program there, i cant tell you how often, you know, ive told you, tell me what the priority countries are, oh, yeah, ideology has no borders, folks, something that happens in trinidad when the socalled Islamic State was appeal to go appealing to young people and everybody shocked that people from trinidad were going over there. If you were paying attention you would understand that what is happening to the people that these socalled Islamic State are trying to recruit, whats the difference between culture and religion, these are the questions that we know they are asking. Thats not only happening in nigeria or in denmark or only happening in morocco, thats happening across the demographic thats connected as digital natives, what does Congress Need to do, it needs to think globally and think about how we can make sure that we scale and they need to put their money where their mouth is, dont get in front of your constituents and this goes for executive branch too, dont tell me that ideology is important and receiver single politician and policy maker has said that and dont do anything, id rather you tell the American Public we are not going the fight hate, we will get into it and go on our marry way, options available for far less than what is spent in the shortterm for fighting the physical wars, i will give you a data point that i use in the book and i think its an important one, it came out of the commission that was done, Bipartisan Commission by cfis that was strategic and International Studies that did a survey really and series of recommendations for leadership in government and and leading up to the last election, what would we need you to do to fight the ideology globally and it wasnt just the socalled Islamic State, it was also the rise of neo nazis, we are looking at the data but the right of antisemitism and the rise of all of the things that we know we are feeling and its really shocking to see that in 2019 we are in this state we are in but we was look at a number that i think tells a very important story, we spend trillions of dollars on the war on terror in general, you know that, specifically on fighting the socalled Islamic State since about 2014, we spend billions of dollars on this, what percentage of that money have we spent on soft power, meaning the idea of fighting the ideology so young people dont find it appealing, the number is 0. 0138 . So how is it that youre supposed to look at, this im calling for not eradication of military act but im saying a strategy needs to be built thats global, that is sustainable over time not hundreds of years, 2 or 3 years all day every day, 24 7 at the same scale needs to be done and integrated strategy of hard and soft power that will allow us to do what it is we want to do, we want to reduce the appeal of the ideology so it is manageable, youre not going to eradicate it from the world but reduce it so we are not dealing with the kind of threat we are dealing with. Have you ever met any people who are coming from other countries and they come to your community, they speak, we bring music, we bring art, we bring things that are culturally important in defining identity, there are other ways of power that obviously you wrote a whole book on, we did a project together that i think, i think dealt with identity, i didnt count how many countries we went to together, but it started with a conference in kasikstan, if you can believe it. You know where that is, and what happens at a diplomatic conference is you sit down where your countrys name is in front of you and you hold the seat and youre called upon and you read a statement that has been cleared by 45,000 people and by the time you get it its its what you see on tv. [laughter] so farah and i were sitting with the ambassador of kasikstan and we decided to do Something Different. No, no, you had the idea. She came up with the idea. We had before we went decided because like a laser focus, farrah focuses on millennials because thats where the population bulge is with muslims and we invited some millennials to come and observe what was happening. What we decided to do together when we were in the seat and called upon by the chair of the meeting, we would flip what we were saying, so the jew was not condemning antisemitism, you know, that does not headlines make but the muslim was condemning antisemitism and the jew was condemning what they refer to in diplomacy as islamic phobia and i know you dont like the word, hatred of muslims, we just did it and much later when i went to saudi arabia thats all they talked to me about, you are the one, youre the one. So that in some ways, the message is important and sometimes the messenger can increase the impact and so what did the millennials that were there say to us . They said that was very nice with speeches and we get it, we get it that the messenger can enhance impact but what did we do and as we are flying back and when we got back to the state department, we decided we have to come up with an answer to this when a millennial says to and that person can be from germany, can be from uruguay, can be from malaysia, whatever, what can i do, we felt that we needed an answer, that we always when youre speaking had a call to action and so what did we decide . Well, i want to first tell you that that as hannah is telling the story im getting nostalgic because hannah is a rouser and she always thinks outside of the box and when i think of the particular program it did start there, i will give you the end before how we did it, it ended up being one of the most important, i think, initiatives that we took on at state around fighting hate because it was very tangible and what we said was young people dont have a lot of money, they do have time and weed like them to walk in the shoes of somebody else, we want them to experience in a different way so we created this campaign that we launched on facebook because we had day jobs and we knew that theyre not listening and following Hannah Rosenthal and Farah Pandith every day. We are asking to walk in somebody elses show, somebody who doesnt look like, love like them or pray like them and we thought its a modest thing, we started in year 2011, lets see if we can get 2,000 in year 2011, turns out that it just went crazy, we had kids all over the world doing things for each other, different communities that they had never had the time to talk to or really thought about going into, you know, finding a way to connect and we asked them to post what they were doing online and they then also got to talk to each other, it built so much momentum that we had 7ngos in the uk that came to us in 2012 and said, hi, we really love this campaign and we really wanted to be part of the london olympics and paralympics game and turned out to be partner and took on the life of its own because hannah and i decided since the olympics wanted it we would go where the olympics began and we went to greece and asked for a very specific logo that you have seen, we went to Olympic Committee and said we are doing this, we used the logo which they dont give out very often and so they said this is exactly the way we would want you to use it. This is the kind of thing, universal thing, we are citing hate and we have to do more, its a very successful program, how simple is this, you know, and i love hearing the stories of young kids who did things for people who were different than they were whether they were making Peanut Butter sandwiches for kids on the other side of town for lunch or taking a place, you know, volunteering to listen to an hour on something that they never imagined, it was inspiring, i think theres opportunity in thinking about that particular initiative because it means it was born from the millennials but imagine how many more other authentic credible organic things can happen if we think about what we can do. And theres another aspect to it and we called it hate, we named the problem. There were people including the secretary that said, cant it be about love, cant it be about world peace, how can we all get along and they said, no, name the problem, you cant solve the issue unless you recognize that all the stuff, bad stuff is happening is born from hate and so it caught on, it caught on all over the world. I mentioned before that farah once said to me if you knew some of the things i knew you wouldnt sleep at night and since then i havent really had a good night sleep, one thing that is amazing and its relevant to the news today and that is that the epicenter of hatred is saudi arabia and i dont think we think about it that much and we are putting truth there. I have no idea why, but for a second talk about how the epicenter of hatred is a country that we are aligning ourselves with and what do we do about this . Well, i think its important in dissecting what the problem is to be really honest with ourselves and with each other about what we are seeing, what we absorbed and when i talk to a representative to muslim communities, i traveled all over the world and you begin to see patterns, this is about the patterns that i saw, im taking you on this journey whether im in cambodia, whether im in norway, whether im in sisily and i didnt come to this position nor did i come with any expectations about right or wrong and what countries were doing around muslim identity. Unless you are going into the communities youre not really seeing, but the patterns that i saw were really disturbing to me and as diplomat and only so far you can go in terms of being, you know, just talking about everything all of the time, but i was seeing a couple of things, i was seeing schools that were built and and staffed with teachers who who taught a very specific brand of understanding around what islam is and which was monolithic, very stern, very direct, as the u. S. Government we are not and should not go around the world telling people how to be a good christian or a bad christian, this is the right kind of islam and it is not, thats not what we do, lets be clear but when youre calling on violence in the name of religion there are things that you have to be clear about and when youre teaching young people in schools whether its through textbooks, whether its through sermons and mosques that the people that are doing the sermons have been trained in a particular way, whether there are qurans that are translated in a certain way that its the us versus them and distributed around the world for free including american prisons, i want to be clear about that, you begin to see patterns on how that affect it is population, one the diversity islam doesnt deal with you know islam has been around the earth 1400 years, its diverse, its in every part of the world, you all know that america is the most Diverse Group of muslims anywhere in the world, these are things we know. When you begin to bring diversity and make it monolithic, only one way to be a muslim, thises the way you must dress, this is what you must eat, this is how you must pray, this is who you must talk to, it changes the entire character of the experience in terms of your identity and pushes away hundreds of years of heritage, saudi arabia was the commonality in everything i was seeing whether i was in bosnia and talking to people, bosnia by the way has a very old and very special experience with islam in their country. The saudis that are here eradicated any kind of authentic organic islam that came from bosnia and replaced it with the kind of arab infusion of the way in which the saudis believed you had to be, they were changing cg the way traditional dress took place, they were changing foods and language. I thought that was really interesting because america had said to bosnia, the saudis, please come in and help build mosques when we build the mosques that had been bombed and so they would go in and they would erase everything in thats was in the past and imagine, okay, for a moment for those of you who have visited europe, imagine if the french or the british or the italians were to rebuild their cathedrals in brandnew way because thats the money they got, you would never imagine that, you would imagine that historians would do things in exact way that they came when they were built. It was a very odd thing for me and i was seeing it here and there but i began to see the larger and in the book theres a chapter called plague from the golf that really spells out for all of you to understand what i saw and why it has a bottom line for us, you may say, its over there, who cares, what difference does it make what people wear and what they eat and im not making a statement on what should be worn or how you must pray, im simply giving you data point that things have significantly changed and the saudiization on the way people believe that they are muslim are directly connected to the way extremists are able to lure people in because they want you to believe that theres only one way to be in muslim and i talk about the soil that has been planted with these minerals for decades, spent billions of dollars over four decades to do what it is im describing and it has been brilliant and successful and i dont understand, this comes to your point, im not calling for america not to have a relationship with saudi arabia, what im saying is the American Public is owed the truth and you cannot put an american in uniform and ask them to go fight somewhere and tell your the parents who are sending their daughter or their son abroad that this is, you know, what we must do and not be honest with them about the kind of relationship we are building with saudi arabia, we are asking for for some changes in the way that they have behaved. I dont think that its asking for too much. So im it is a Central Point for me not because, you know, this is not about the Jamal Khashoggi murder, this is not about the recent, you know, coziness between President Trump and his administration and saudi arabia, this is something much bigger that i believe the American Public needs to understand and i am very careful in this book to document what i saw and to make sure that you can see with my eyes what ive seen. I refer to, you know, countries south asia and in africa that have absolutely changed who they are because of the impact of saudi arabia and i find it extremely disturbing when i think about the numbers, this is why i get scared. It isnt just a small pop populn because it only takes one generation, hitler knows this, if you change history it only takes one generation before that truth becomes the truth that everybody believes and we have got to do something about it today. You need to recognize that many ways a muslim. There are many ways to be a christian and you, and so forth. Weve hit our supposed to open it up for questions i have a whole lot of questions they always tell us listen to people what theyre saying. If anyone has a question now would be the time to come forward. And somebody has to make. As a standup mike. Someone who is closer as a question. You talked earlier about to give people an action that they can do and some of my understanding of this may be off but ive always heard that there such high unemployment and a lot of the islamic world that the need for young people have some some thing to do when theyre not employed as a big part of that. Could you talk to that. A couple of basic framing points you will recall that that was the thesis that everybody believed right after september 11. That the people that got on those planes had to be certainly had to be not educated. Why would they ever do such a thing. They were doing things for money. In 18 years in september 11 the one thing i can tell you is a lot of research has been done how people get radicalized. How are they able to convince people about how rich or poor you are. About if you are employed or not employed is not about how educated or not educated you are. Its about identity and belonging. Its about the experience that happens growing up feeling all of these things about your place in the world what happens post september 11 theres been an allday expression and after said that in ways that we all know and can feel Something Different pocket earth. Islam and muslim has been on there every single day. At increased increased expression of people looking at me. Can i navigate the first tier of the problem. All of these other things can come along. Obviously we want young people to have a job. We want to have time and energy trying to figure out how to make sure that there is more that is done in communities there is no correspondence between i have no job and therefore im going to be an extremist and the in the vast majority of cases. There are cases i have to be fair in which extremist to pay to go do something. That does happen but that is not what we were dealing with when all of these young people were radicalized by the Islamic State and lets talk about other types of extremism as well. Its not about money for action. The figures of the 0. 13 of the budget for something or other. Whats being devoted we would refer to as william. Whenever the cia engages in operations. Is the one that they screwed up. What they dont see is that 100 successful ones that never make the headlines because theyre all done very quietly. Through the modern 21st century techniques. You absolutely proved my point about the way that we looked at what tools we head in the toolbox. The way we describe the effort to stop young people right after september 11. His when hearts and minds. From a different era in american history. For this particular thing when he hearts and minds. Import time people who we are as americans and pushing back against those that will say it is a different story. We want to attract people to who we are. A lot of different reasons. In this particular thing to make sure that your building resilience communities that are able to push back the ideologies that are coming in. Its not necessary that you convinced that 17yearold kid they have to love america. You want to make sure that they are not bringing tom to Wilson Street at the date of the boston marathon. If they dont like particular policy go to the ballot box or be really angry or whatever it is they have to do. The light is violent. And its building the momentum to do destructive and horrible criminal things. I dont use the terminology hearts and minds in my book. Is a really important thing to understand about what it is that were doing. In terms of the role of the u. S. Government we did talk about corporations for regular citizens and i wanted to connect us to that from the government perspective every program. With the facilitator and the intellectual partner with the ideas that we hear on the ground. From the bottom up and they are from neighborhoods and communities that says we want to build these different kinds of programs and initiatives because we know that will build resilience with our young people. And we need to partner with that and say we cant know what to do this part of madison needs to be able to fight hate what he think it matters. We would talk to the young people and say what are the programs online and offline. That is the stuff that government can do. What i also advocate is that we dont end we have not understood that the east coast in which we live is critical. An understanding that. To connect the data that they head about who you are in the slicing and dicing of communities. It can be applied to the kind programs not to be attracted to the white supremacist. We want to put something in front of you. We want to get the narratives of former extremists extremist in front of you. In a way that is actually organic and makes sense. Many tears of things that we can do. Its not beside the scenes. What that does there is a supersecret program that were really trying to do. Its also shine spray. To listen to what is happening at the ground level and doing what we need to do. The work that ive done. I can tell you having worked with them. They need to support they need Critical Data and information on how to do things and they need the consciousness of mankind to understand. The government is and can be enough. They are our best front line workers to stop the appeal of hate. We have to work with them anyway that we can. Thank you very much. For 35 years has focused on sudan. What i see in that area of course. I watch the transformation of a vibrant diversified islam to what currently existed. And what i saw was two things. The blending of hard power and soft power. I also thought of third factor. I wanted to transition for the corporation. In many of these places i see that example. The propping up of somebody in the specific government has been taken advantage of by international research. There is impunity for those other resources. They are advancing in situations in the case of a war and violence that has been backed up by a fusion of this his this islamic absolutism. And i wondered as a frustrated person who has watch this unfold. Can you give me any words to show me how to better understand how the corporate or how you see it in some of these unsavory areas. Or something that can give us more hope. For whats going on. I want to thank you. I notified with that cultural anthropologist. The way in which you look at communities and understand the development of people and what is happening to them is critical. If the environment in which we are working. Companies, corporates had people who do understand the cultural ways. Understand what is coming. They understand the indicators of the change of behavior. In the movement of different ideas. I want to see a collaboration between that knowledge and understanding with ngos that are actually building the program and i dont see that. People often talk about a Public Private partnership there are also things that ngos and companies can do that have not been done and need to be done because of the companies had their operating in these places all over the world whether they are selling water or so. They are understanding whats happening culturally and they can aid in the data and learning. Calling out on the corporate sector. It is critically important to understand that if we want to see change around fighting hates. For waiting for government to do this we will be waiting a long time. It will require us as humans to say this is something we want to take off the table which means it takes all of us. It is not a perfect comparison. I think its enough that we can get that when hiv and aids appeared in the 1980s and people were so scared of this virus wouldnt even know what it was. We can talk about it because of the context culturally. We were scared, it was the great unknown. If we had waited for government to get with the program and figure out all of this in 2019 we went be dealing with the situation. Corporate started putting money into research into try to figure out how to we deal with this. Church groups religious people teachers, social workers everybody in the community began to talk about teaching this and learning more and we began to change our behavior. And how we thought about this thing that have happened. It is nothing we can do but it took other sectors of society to all Work Together to go towards this issue is something we need to do. What do i see happening. What do i call for. I call for corporate to get real and what they say. And in the work that i have heard and seen your hearing about corporate profits. Making sure we do something for social good. I like to call the corporate to say dont you think that thats something you can handle. It isnt enough what theyre doing right now is not enough and we must understand that even though they are forprofit companies. Im not suggesting that they dont but we have to understand the implications how do i see this changing. I see this with the moment where its good to take all of us to get to the place where we can manage the threat of hate. Thats what i have to say and there is more in the book around these pieces. I did go to suzanne by the way. I think you might enjoy it. So feeding off your statement that its the epicenter of hatred and since our government has so willingly supported saudi arabia versus for example iran which is the opposite once a shiite nation. And once a sunni nation. Isnt it important in this whole battle against hatred that we stopped supporting saudi arabia. But that we do something in that respect whether its from the corporate angle or the individual angle are certainly the government angle otherwise how are you can stop the end at the center of hatred if were for supporting it every other way. If you can speak to that. I want to clarify what i said. It is the epicenter of everything i have seen a lot of them. The interpretation that they put forward. The us versus them ideology as a lot of people can claim across many different kinds of hate i want to be clear about that. I just want to say sir, we have relationships with countries that we dont buy into absolutely everything that they do. We sell goods to those companies. Do they not have a relationship with saudi arabia. They have done some horrific things. I dont call for that. What i do call for as a whole bunch of very basic things that weve been talking about. They will promote a monolithic approach. I had been able to pick up off of library shelves. They need to get real about the mom trainings. They bring people around the world. They need to stop the Cultural Heritage elimination. Theres a lot of things to say about things we need and can do. They have an opportunity. I dont see that happening. Perhaps there will be a time when we have the courage in america to be honest with americans. I hope that day is soon. Can i ask one more question. You talk about the socalled Islamic State can you define what you think of that. See mac i noticed right out there. The Bush Administration i was doing this in the state department. It was right after the danish cartoon crisis. We were really surprised. When they started doing that. We werent ready for it. We do understand what was happening. I was upstate but i was on the ground in europe all the time. I went to 55 cities in 19 countries. I was second to talking to different generations in europe. I thought it was only happening with communities. I lent learned all my gosh its happening. In countries that they lived in majority as well. It was a real change for me. The issue of lexicon was vitally important people hear what they hear and how they absorb it. So anything we would say as americans that would set up an us versus them would have a very deep response to the young people. The american president said this. Or it must mean that theres a lot of issues around disrespect. Youre seen that in the news right now. With the letter that president ial bro to everyone. Around this issue of respect. I say all of the sea because i want to be clear in my language as best as i can i call for us as americans and diplomats to speak american english. I think it could be very problematic. Ways that we dont know or understand. Even if it means that there are many more words. When Hillary Clinton asked me to be the special representative most people at the state department were pushing back against this term why cant you just say muslim world. I mean that as a term that i used in grad school. I didnt think about it. What does that mean. It means that there is a special world in which muslims live. Im like everybody comes counts everybody gets respect. People living in the mid story muslim states. So i take lexicon very seriously i dont like the idea by suggesting that they have the legitimacy and the strength to be some kind of nation. With time for one more question if no one goes to the microphone i guess when theyre using the parallel of the crisis. There was eight activists died activist dying in the streets. That the corporations Pay Attention hundred percent. That they almost that. It made the difference. And it took years of hard work. It is in the book. I promise you. In fact let me also Say Something else. One of my classmates from high school and they went to eliza how we began to see it. What you do as a parent and what can you do at the library, i talk about libraries a lot in the book. I think theyre centers of community and we have to be real about what were doing and what were saying and think you so much for talking about that. As i was sitting its about this hate and the state and the us versus them. And certainly throughout my lifetime and history. It is a simplistic way in which you are afraid where youre getting a solution saying its their fault. I think its so epidemic. And said though i hear that when i talk to hate yet somehow i see that happening all the time so i dont know if you can address that. Its critically important to understand how long it takes us to get to a place. To move from doing this to something else. The way i think about the other. An action that i take. When i decide to put it in a recycling bin. What did it take me to understand how important it was. It is society setting those signals to me. It is the advertising. We talk about hate in america in the context of politics. We talk about in terms of race. Were beginning to talk about in terms of religion and ways that we talk about hate. Im not pollyanna. I dont think we can eradicate that from the world. But i do believe in who we are as americans i think there is more that we can do. Theres one thing i want to add to that. We only had two minutes. I think where we were warned by the ambassador when you talk about reaching out to people who dont look like you, pray like you or live like you. Dont say love like you. It will turn them off. And we did a program of with young people. And all of them said im in help with the pride parade. We werent listening to them. We were told to stay away from that. It was one of those. I cant lettuce let us and without asking is there a special role for them to play. And three in the special world. We also have a special role. Most of the time a mother is a childs first teacher. I urge us to think about that really in terms of what is happening in your home. And the language that you use and how you live your day so that children understand this. When you talk about diversity and diversity of opinions its really important that the policy cables who are talking about how solutions can be formed around this is not just a bunch of guys. We both know how important it is to look around that policy table and say where is the difference here. It just cant be the same old thing. I think the magic happens when we all understand that we can do far more than were doing today and is not someone elses problem but its our problem are in action. Our laziness on hate. Has gotten us to the place that we are today. Think you so much how lucky was i that i got to work with her. Thank you all for coming
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