Federal powers and on wednesday we will see some type of announcement on israel. The administration has indicated he is likely to declare that jerusalem is the capital on this ongoing issue for the u. S. Embassy should be in all likelihood it will stay in tel of beef. On friday we see the president back on the campaign trail in pensacola that is aimed at the roy more supporters so we will see that issue popup that he says he supports roy more but overhanging is the ongoing russia investigation with the general plan if he will provide information that could implicate others and to focus on the end of the week with a big budget deadline perhaps a governmentid shutdown and the president is working with the congress. Set that up with a potential of what could happen. I know it will shock you year at the end of the year they dont know how they will find the government but here we are they have a deadline they will not reach that deadline with that meetingd between donald trump and nancy pelosi with the four principles to talk caps that isg important because they cannot discuss that and then trump ahead of that meeting treated there is no budget deal coming so basically we have been delayed one week after the thanksgiving recess the what happens on friday is the Republican Leaders want to kick the can twoth weeks instead of the eight there looking at the 22nd to buy some more time type of deal and they will be doing that on friday but thee question of what happens after that is up in the air with thinking they to get the long term spending bill to get them through the rest of the fiscal year in the short window a lot of conservatives dont like that plan because they think they will be gm giving the democrats too much leverage and they will have to swallow a lot day would not have to so the plan is to kick it into the middle of january no holiday and not swallowing those jet fumes of you can envision a scenario this friday then another two weeks that additional foure weeks into the middle of j. Gary it is continuous planting althoughti the deadline was september 30th so they are already on borrowed time. So what is the attitude now . Face a back and watch watch . They hope they can get a two week temporary continuing resolutions the and closer to the holidays into january. The question is what they do on daca the democrats tried to use that as leverage as a permanento solution to the dreamers that are in this country needing those projections but he indicated in all likelihood if we get to march without reaching an agreement he will help the leverage want trying to use that to their advantage beforefo the end of the year. So the democrats on daca daca . Not until they get into the room there on the sidelines so they have been out of the live they are in wait and see mode what will come up. Paul ryan said he doesnt want to do daca on the spending bill and trump said the sameum thing but it is very difficult to envision a rescenario bringing their dream act as a standalone bill particularly this year. To do emergency supplementals. Plan and they dont have time to do that as a standalone. Probably in the house and definitely in the senate where schumer has a filibuster. So they will say if you want the of votes that is fine leadership the government down you will be blamed. Our guests are going to be with us this hour. From the budget side to taxes with a fruit that comes to bear. This is where the rubber meets theab road bissett it is his dream this is what he wants to get done the house was supposed to come back to reconcile the big bills billy had 13 defections bed to struggle more within the hours of last saturday but the differences are there is always the thought that the senate would just jammed the houseus and not go to Congress Conference but they said we will conference this out and that process starts today but it is a race to thee finish with the Obamacare Mandate with the mortgage Tax Deduction graduate school deduction, at t, estate tax the list goes on and on it is a math problem problem with conservatives and moderates in the house making it fit under the cap and then by christmas is crunch time. The white house saw victory last week. They did not see these changes as deal breaker is by any means they just feel the of hard work was getting throughh both chambers of what was interesting saturday before he left for your president said the Corporate Tax rate we like to see 20 but maybe it is 22 percent that raised some eyebrows you saw marco rubio tweet as the way to help fund his Child Tax Credit they would not do it they were insisting on a 20 now the president seems to be open to negotiation on that issue. We will see how these pieces come together h but it is like something they should be able to get done before christmas the president is all about branding and once to deliberate a beautiful Christmas Gift of tax cuts to the American People they think theyre on track. Situation where Michael Flynn lied. But where is the main source about that from pennsylvania . Direction do you feel the white house is going to go in that direction . Where is the proof that Michael Flynn direction do you feel the white house is received money f country of turkey . Is there any proof that he received any money . Host ken. Guest in a lot of ways were reading the tea leaves with the mueller investigation. We really only know what he tells us through the court documents. One thing i thought was very interesting was the plea deal gets into lying to the f. B. I. It does not get into some of these other issues that you cite in terms of his business dealings with turkish gets into and whether there may have been any improprietary on that. Hat i think you have to keep in mind is that if mueller had wanted to throw the book at flynn he could have and brought up all these other issues but hes seemingly willing to just focus on the one issue of lying to the f. B. I. As a way to know more rs who may about what happened earlier this year during the campaign. So the fact that turkey did not come up in these pleas i think shows that they want to use flynn as leverage, as a cooperative witness who could help implicate others. Host the president s tweet talking about flynn and apparently what he knew, what do you make of that especially now there were the white house has been trying to say that the president wasnt changing his timeline. He was simply acknowledging what we all know, which is that when flynn has now been charged with lying to the f. B. I. But it raises questions about what he knew and when he knew it. Host have we heard someone else has composed the tweet for the president . Guest thats new for us. You could see a scenario where you want want a lawyer to compose a tweet if it relates to the investigation. Up to this point the president hadnt been tweeting much about the investigation. It seemed like they had prevailed to leave that subject alone because a tweet could put you in legal jeopardy and cause problems for you. But the fact that you have a lawyer coming forward and tweet, composed the thats very unique. Host various investigations looking into these issues particularly amongst democrats. How do they take in and use it for their purpose fs they do . Guest theyll pounce on this politically. This has been an issue for them all along. They thought his political goal hasnt led to the result they were looking for. Tweet, moving as as public as they would like. But they will certainly the House Intel Committee are both very focused on this issue. Thats where quickly and democr like a broader investigation. They would like a 9 11 style commission. So it would be more independent, more nonpartisan. But thats not going to happen with the republicans controlling both chambers. So youre going to see adam shitchshiff and mark warner the ranking in both committees. Its just more of a drip type of scenario. Theyre looking forward a smoking gun and havent found it yet but theyre hopeful. Host lets hope from a caller in new hampshire. Youre on. Caller good morning. Washington journal i have to give you a shout out. I love this show. The best show on tv. I have learned quite a bit from you guys and from republicans i hate to say it and it has changed my mind on one or two issues. But i have a question for both of your guests. I would like for both to address it and i have a quick commevent. I would like to say this. I love prompts, tweets, just because youre going to sink his ship hfment he keeps tweeting. That will get him in trouble. People are going to be able to refer back to those tweets. Host your question to our guests sir . Caller when will we ever get back to roared . The regular order . With all the partisanship, with the president s rhetoric, when will we ever get back to regular order or is this the way its always going to be . The host thank you. Guest its a very good question. When paul ryan and the republicans came in at the start of this term they had unified government for the first time in a dozen years. They have the white house, the house, and senate. And they promised regular order. They were critical of obama and the democrats of jamming things through. Obamacare being the apex of that argument. Since they have taken control they found out its a little more difficult than just that. There are a lot of bills passed by regular order. Theres a lot of bipartisan cained of run of the mill every day bills that are passed not controversial. Hey go through committee, come out of the committee, go to the floor, go to the president s desk and are signed. Its out of the just not happening o big stuff. Because of the pressure on the republicans to reward the voters who put them in power, the Appropriations Bills that they pass throughout the year were very conservative. They passed on party line votes, in committee, on the floor if they made it that far but it was all a charade because they knew it was never going to pass in the senate. They still need of 0 votes in the senate to pass 60 votes in the senate to pass anything. That was going to be the barrier to getting those conservative ideas to the president s desk. They knew that but had to put on the show. Thats what weve been seeing all year. There was a regular order up until the point that it hit the Senate Filibuster and then it stopped. Now were into crs, kick the n down the road and its going to end up in a big omnibus bill. Its going to need bipartisan support. So there went the end of regular order. Then its not only going to spending bills, youre talking about health care stuff, then they start throwing all kinds of other thing that is are not even related to the spending bill and then regular order is out the window. So when are we going to get back to it . I have no idea. I would guess not any time soon. Dont hold your breath. Host does this white house care about return to reg wlar order . Guest publicly they would say they would like to return to regular order, a better system. But this is just a function of the polarization of our politics. We have had a stream of views on both sides often clashing. As mike said when the senate is as divided as it is it makes it to just for a party get a budget bill through in a normal process. Youve been living on the shortterm crs fosh years and its almost retaliatory. I think a lot of democrats feel like republicans force them to pass these when president obama was in charge and why should they go out of their way to help republicans now that they have the white house . Host go ahead. Caller good morning and thank you once again for cspan. Its interesting and sarin dip tuss in terms of the previous caller asking how we get back to normal order as my own question effectively is on the back of that as well and is very much akin to that question. As an independent voter and someone who bleevels that we are in an extraordinary crisis that has been lingering for quite some years now. The question that i have is lets think outside the conventional ultra polarized box for a moment. The framers of the constitution created a constitution wrn the public, the people, the american constituency itself had the capacity to hold a congress and east coastively come together and discuss how they can contend with things if, for example, things in washington and things with the parliamentarian and with the politicians that are supposed to be our elected officials as on posed to our leaders go awry and astray. I would like to pose the question, what constructs should the American People be uelingt liesed in terms of one another as freethinking adults outside of the conventional voting strictures, outside of the conventions of simply tweeting back and forth at one another like children . What can we utilize within the constitution that would allow us to come together and discuss these things in a mandated orderly and simple fashion . All adults within all 50 states to come to corral the powers in washington that in my opinion and i would argue at least 80 the gone completely into sewer . Guest not being a constitutionalthe scholar i don know of any specific provision within the document. But this goes back to voting. You have to have an engaged population if you want the place to work. Shaw said rd democracy is that thing that ensures that we get no better than we deserve and we govern no better than we shaw said democracy is that thing that ensures that we get no better than we deserve and we govern no better than we deserve. Remarkable that were talking about this alabama race and moore and all the attention that we shower on this thing. And then a lot of voters say what ray . We havent heard about it. People hadnt heard voters in alabama shaw said democracy is that thing that ensures had not heard of roy moore. So when people are that disengaged, when the caller said 80 . How many are going to the polls . Its a special election next week. Very high stakes in alabama. Well see how many show up. And maybe disengaged its just because theyre politics and it becomes a vicious cycle where the place gets worse because nobody is engaged. Then it turns voters off and then theyre not going to go back. People paid attention and went to the polls, it might be better. Things might click a little pol becomes a vicious cycle where the place gets worse because nobody is better up here. Host judge moore sent out a tweet specifically thanking the president for his support and will make America Great again. Cant wait to help drain the swamp. Has there been support for this president and roy moore . Guest the president has tweeted he is supporting roy moore. That his vote is essential to help the republicans pass their agenda. The president is concerned that if doug jones gets that vote it could help Chuck Schumer and they have very narrow margins. Two votes basically made the difference here. So roy moore is viewed as someone who can help deliver republican support. And theres almost an ends justifies the means approach here. They tried to avoid moore about a month ago and i think as some of the scrutiny of moores conduct has died down, maybe perhaps its been clouded a bit by some of the issues going on with the democrats, i think the white house feels like now its time to get engaged and try to put him over the top. Host so if roy moore did win then whats the Senate Action . You saw Mitch Mcconnell saying let the voters in alabama decide. What happens if that happens . Would there still be attempts to block that . Guest it will be a fascinating thing. I think initially the feeling was if he got here there would be some kind of ethics investigation and then that he might be expelled or censored or something. Certainly was the hope in the eyes and minds of a lot of republicans. But as this has evolved and cer hes gained the popularity 069 president and other conservative figures and if he wins what are you going to do . Poke a finger in the eyes of the alabama voters . You cant necessarily do it. And you cant do it at all. Theyre starting to realize that. Its unclear what will happen. Theres still calls on the right for an ethics investigation. I guess the question would be with a would be the outcome of that . Thats the way for them to punt it. Well take a look at it sort of like the initial calls for an ethics investigation into john conyers. But things evolve and well have to see what happens. But its going to be a fascinating dynamic because its not just these charges lingering over him. Its that he and mcconnell dont get along and roy moore has promised to be a thorn in mcconnells side which is not something the majority leader reads right now. Good morning. Caller thank you for taking my all. You cant have a deal until you know what the caps are. Theres only so much money going into the pot and we have so many problems we cant just and say well take care of it when we dont know how much money is in the pot. We have so many people and say unemployed, so many people who need health care. People on food stamps, people who need to be trained and jobs. We have to look at the most important things and work down. Thank you for take mig call. I think the caller speaks to the problem we saw recently when the president was going to welcome the congressional and s to the white house then they pulled out. That was lost time. They could have perhaps talked about these caps and maybe reached some type of agreement. Theyre going to have to figure hat out. Get the twoweek delay they can buy a little more time but certainly behind the scenes the talks are ongoing. See i re going to get the twk think is if the caps are busted , but the di agreement is going to be partisan in the sense the republicans want to increase the defense spending. See i think is pelosi and schumer say we want that too but we want parity. If youre going to increase defense by x dollars we want x dollars for nondefense discretionary spending. So thats where youre going to see the cap situation happen. But to the callers question, this should have happened last week and then we might not need cr. My question is from immigration. Im here 32 years in the United States. Wheng i first come here i was 40. Now im 72. I was a nurse. Before i didnt speak english now i speak. I took care of lots of patients. I support every government gency. Now i deserve my pension and Social Security. Here am i to go now . I worked all the time. Now im not working i dont have money. Here am i to go . The larger point of immigration. Funding for a wall had to be in place, is that off the table now . Guest from the congressional standpoint its a nonstarter rom the eyes of the democrats. The same dynamics are happening now. Nothing has changed in terms of where the democrats stand and where their votes will be eeded. In september when he worked the chuck and nancy on shortterm bill he took a lot of blow back from members of his base. And i think the president is concerned about his base where it would the shortterm bill he took a lot of blow back leave him on the i nd theres a definite interest in the white house to remain firm on immigration. It was something that got him elected and they feel like es a need to meet those keep those promises. Host from new york, republican line. Caller speaking about daka, daca and the wall should be on the same wall. The republicans had to use that as a wedge. A family of a border agent spent it in the funeral home because the drug cartel wanted to get the hirn across the border. 1100 americans die every day of a heroin overdose. I believe daca should be passed but also the wall should be built. As far as his twitter, i think hes great. He gives us his opinion straight from his mouth. Thats what ive got to tell you. Have a good day. Host how is that going to resonate in congress and the white house . Guest its an issue that the president was very upset about recently when the mexican person charged with a crime was only convicted on a lesser offense. We could see the federal government try to pursue charges against him perhaps but the case was something that ally worked in tandem with wall esidents push for a and we wall and we continue he will talk about this. Host there was an effort made on case law too. Where does that stand . Guest i dont know the answer right now. After the verdict came down weve got hey said to move on. But i dont know if its in his committee or out. Host another topic. John conyers, his future. Al franken his future. Lk about these instances and the large issue of Sexual Harassment. What is Congress Like now especially with that topic . Guest its a very strange time. The large issue of sexual i can say that. Just talking off the record to a lot of members who have been here for an awfully long time. They say its a very strange dynamic. Very jittery. Talked to a longtime member on friday. Just getting into an elevater these days theres a sense of if theres somebody of the opposite gender, a young staffer, turn sideways and make sure youre not brushing up against them. Described the case where hes king a picture and putting his arm around another female lawmaker and then whips his arm back quickly because hes not sure what the rules are any more, not sure where the lines are being crossed. Its a very strange dynamic in the eyes of a lot of lawmakers. That said, theres also i think extremely serious push to wed out these guys. Weed out these guys. The question is where do you draw the line in terms of due process and how do you do it without throwing out innocent until Proven Guilty . And john conyers has been cused by four women who have all come public now but he is denying everything and he has a lot of defenders left on capitol hill. But the writing on the wall i think is shifting against him ic now but at this point with Democratic Leadership including those in the black caucus coming out and asking him to resign as the best course. Host al franken . Guest theres the other one. Because we had two new accusers just last week. But it seems like there has aga at this point been a very if you ask the defenders of conyers theyll say theres a distinct double standard because you have these , legations going back years they approach it differently. Franken has admitted, apologized, and said it will never happen again. I dont know if democrats response is the reason for the tinction but no Democratic Senators have called for tincti senators have called for him to resign. Although youre starting to see house members do so. Host and how the quhouse is looking at that. Guest i think probably they like the fact that it has the water with the roy moore situation. One thing i think is interesting is pelosis decision to call for conyers resignation. What impact does that have on Chuck Schumer and how he handles the al franken case. Theres this deep relationship between Chuck Schumer and al franken. Schumer was very influential in flankens ability to first win his senate seat. And if pelosi is calling for conyers to resign there will be some people who will say shouldnt schumer expect the same from franken . These are different cases. But as you have more people coming forward saying that senator franken acted inappropriately with me, many on ago, it puts pressure schumer to address the franken situation in some way. Host the president arriving at Andrews Air Force base just about to Board Air Force one to go to utah today. What happens in utah . Guest hs going to be with orrin hatch the senior the senator from utah. Theyre going to be discussed this issue of national monuments. The Obama Administration last december announced plans to create this Bears Ears National monument and it was something that angered utah republicans. They felt like it was a land grab essentially of federal land and it was an issue that President Trump has really seized upon. Last spring, he asked his interior secretary to do a review of these monuments and this is the first example of the president looking to shrink these monuments. Theyre expected to split them in some way. Were still waiting for details on that. But he is going to be announcing that plan in salt lake city. He is also going to be meeting with mormon leaders while he is out there. White house officials see mormons as perhaps an important voting group in future elections, it was a group that he underperformed on in 2016. There are a lot of mormon voters in nevada, for example. So that meeting is viewed as a way to connect with that community. Host ill show you continuing video of the president before he leaves for utah. Well continue on with our guests. Los angeles. Caller thanks for take mig call. Many questions but i will stick to one. I want to know your thoughts and your personal feelings on this idea of impeachment of our president. Are you surprised . I personally feel that im half middle eastern. Personally i feel for a long time weve been somewhat supportive, instrumental or supportive i would say in the overthrow of governments in the middle east. I think our kids have seen that, our youth have seen that throughout the years. I dont want to say i almost el like the chickens are coming home to roost. This idea of impeachment almost sort of to me seems like, has this been your standard where coming home to were willing to i would say overthrow our own government because i mean, what has he done impeachable so far . People keep talking about it. I just want to know your personal thoughts. Guest given whats going on weve heard this mention several times. Wheres the latest in the calls for this . Guest there are at least six probably seven or eight now democrats who are on the record having endorsed articles of impeachment for special violation. Its a laundry list of things. Its everything from they accuse him of democrats who are record having endorsed articles being a racist for his response to charlottesville, of conspiring with the russians in the election. Its xy and z. So its a lot of things that he has done. And just theyre underlying charges hes creating instability in washington to the detriment of the democracy. So being a racist for those who has introduced the is threatening to een one of force a vote on that before the end of the year. Whether he does that or not we dont know. Its a very tricky issue for pelosi and the Democratic Leaders because they just want to be hands off. They know that trump has this very powerful base and they know that any attacks against trump are just going to energize conservatives especially if eist pelosis democrats doing it. So the optics here in terms of going dership is were to be hands off. Well let mueller do his probe, well let them do their probe. Its way too early, going to be hands off. Its prema tour. Youre hearing tham from leadership across the board. Theres liberal democrats who also have a base to cater to and they think hes crossed those lines. Whether or not al green goes through to force a vote. One person can force a procedural vote not on the resolutions themselves but it would put the house on the record and well see if he follows through. Its prema host how much does the white house Pay Attention . Guest i dont think they do as much. I think its prema tour. Republicans control the house and the senate. If theres a change after the 2018 elections igget might be more of an issue i think it might be more of an issue. Among democrats i think there is a concern of overreach that you could beat the drum on peachment and it gives republicans a way of republicans a way of energizing their support eshes. The white house supporters. The wouse would give them the argument democrats are out to get this president , they dont want to work with him. Until we know what the outcome of the 2018 election i dont expect much to happen. Host jack in ohio. Democrats rine. Caller does mueller have the make trumps lawyer take a lie detecter test about these tweets . Thank you. Guest im not aware that he does. But as the caller knows, the sequence of events with this tweet have certainly raised some eye brows, raised questions on whether john dowd in fact did compose the tweet or if it was something that the president did on his own. I actually happened to be with the president in new york on saturday and the tweet was issued while we were in a motor cade going from one fund raiser to another. So it was not like the president was at the podium speaking when this tweet was issued. He was in the beast as they call it when the tweet was sent out. So its certainly possible that the president did send the tweet himself. Host so the president before he left the white house goes to Andrews Air Force base talked to reporters briefly. Hear what he had to say. I feel badly for general flynn. Hes led a very strong life and i feel very hear what he had to. I will say this. Hillary clinton lied many times to the f. B. I. And Nothing Happened to her. Flynn lied and they destroyed his life. I think its a shame. Hillary clinton on the fourth of july weekend went to the f. B. I. , not under oath, it was the most incredible thing anyones ever seen. She lied many times. Nothing happened to her. Flynn lied and its like they ruined his life. Its very unfair. Host mr. Thomas. Guest its interesting that the president continues to use Hillary Clinton as a way of deflecting. In his tweets hes often pointed to the way Hillary Clinton was treated by the f. B. I. As a way of making the case that general flynn and others have been treated poorly. We also saw over the weekend this revelation that an f. B. I. Counter intelligence agent had been radio moved from the Mueller Probe because he sent some antitrump tweets sorry. Antitrump text messages. Apparently the president seized upon that. So i think any time the president can use Hillary Clinton or the circumstances surrounding that investigation to deflect, its something hell use. Host lets go to illinois, republican line. Caller a Beautiful Day here in to nois and i just wanted point something out real quick. Most your callers, seems the independents and the republicans, are talking about the future of this country and the world, and democrats are always focused on trump. What i called for was what can we do to open the books about taxpayer hush funds for elected officials covering un, keeping their victims quiet . Can be can be done to open the books . I will bet there are bigname politicians that no one wants their name out there. What can we do . Guest its a good question. And timely. Theres actually going to be a hearing on thursday. House Admin Committee is going to consider a bill sponsored by jackie spears democrat from california and barbara comstock, republican from virginia. They want to reform the way that these complaints are reported and the way theyre settled. It would offer a type of transparency. It sounds like the caller wants to know who has already been tapping this slush fund and this bill is not retro active. So theres going but there are some who are pushing for that. So theres a question of whether or not those who have already settled would be revealed and but theres still forward ainly moving require more transparenty. And nobody in their right mind would use it if the public is aware of it host do you see some point for require in the future where everyone would be revealed . Guest theres already been this drip. But its going to have to leak that committee. I dont know that theres an appetite in congress. I guess depending on who has tapped the fund. Host is this a onetime fund or is it replenished . Hows f how does that work . Guest it gets money from that. I dont know that theres an appetite in the treasury. And important to know theres 15 million thats been romped has been paid out. A vast majority is not Sexual Harassment claims. A lot was oobstose claims and architect whose work in the capitol have been tapping that fubbed for years. So its not fund for years. Its not just lawmakers. An important distinction to be made. But the problem is also much bigger than that because john conyers didnt use that fund because he used office fund, often taxpayer funded. So theres a lot more money being diverted to this purpose that we dont know about. Host george, democrats line. Aller i have two or three questions. When the president came above the law one. Second, when do the Senior Citizens get a cost of living raise back in their Social Security checks . Third, when di shift the age limits on people in congress . Thank you very much. Host ok. Guest three very different questions there. The third one first. Certainly the issue of term limits has come up. It comes up every cycle. Theres a question of whether or not people should be career politicians. Some say we need experience and capable of making compromises. We need adults to run this place. And again who have the experience to do so. Then theres another group that says people get up here and forget why they came. Theyre just disconnected from the constituents and the country they serve and become part of the beltway bubble. Thats a problem, too. Thats an ongoing conversation. You cant envision that theres any appetite for lawmakers to put any kind of term limit on their own career. No one is talking about that seriously. I dont know if theres any real bill. But every once in a while, every term somebody retires and said when i was elected i said i was only going to be here for three or four or five terms and now im gone. So the idea is out there but i dont see it happening. The it does help power trump coalition, the drain the swamp, this idea that politics as usual is broken. I think well probably see that in the next election. Line from north carolina. Guest afe couple of things. The first thing i was going to say is we need the walt. Wall. I just wanted to say i dont care what the negotiations are, the wall cannot be dropped. I have been working 49 years working paying taxes and Social Security. I earned mine. I really dont want to hear any more about illegals. But as long as we have the wall thats a the marine thing. I also wanted to talk about the allegations on the sex accusations. Im tired of hearing more in the category of everybody else. Moore has not said he was sorry. Moore said he didnt do it. And hes always put with the other people who say i apologize, i didnt know what i did. Im tired of it. I just want to say alabama please vote moore. Lets get him in there and get mad and get out and vote. But i also want to talk about host ill have to leave it there because were running short of time. The president supports moore but hes going to pensacola for this rally. Why not go to alabama . Guest he went to alabama to support luther strange. That didnt turn out that well. That if he cern alienated moores voters, that could be a problem. Also, it that if he was a shot moore. I think its died down a little bit. I think the thinking now is that you can kind of thread the needle. You can go to pensacola, its in the same media market as mobile so you can reach a lot of moore voters through the rally without you saying you actually stepped foot in alabama. If in fact doug jones happens to win you dont have mud on your face that you supported two losers in the Alabama Senate race. Host so the senate side, i guess whats the sentiment right now as far as the election . I know there are a lot of things happening. Are people in the senate paying attention . Guest certainly. Everyone is dying to know who is going to show up here. And its high stakes. The republicans only have a 52 48 majority. They dont have a lot of votes to give as weve seen in the Obamacare Repeal effort which they couldnt get the votes that they needed. They couldnt even get a simple majority and they struggled with this tax vote. Again, when the filibuster was off the table. They struggle on big issues to get a simple majority. If he ore comes or doesnt theres going to be intrigue but its going to be a tough task for Mitch Mcconnell because roy moore has come in as a drain the swamp kind of guy, Mitch Mcconnell is the problem with washington never mind that he is a republican and that he is running the senate of the United States congress. Im going to give him a hard time. And mcconnell knows that. Which is why he was endorsing luther strange. But as he said strange didnt win the primary so now they may be stuck with moore. Its all very fascinating. There was also the question of whether or not that election would affect the tax debate. It doesnt look like thats going to happen at this point. But looking ahead, theres going to be future votes where a force. Caller i have three comments to make. The first one is about roy moore. Roy moore a force. Is accused o ped file and he admitted it on sean hannity on fox. Thats one. Number two is the fact that in this conference they still have to vote. And if people would get out the working class people would get out and call their Congress Ople and call their senators voice your opinion maybe they might have a little bit of leeway on them. It is not a good bill for the working class people nor the poor people. Host ok. Guest as far as calling congress, the conference committee. Host how long do these typically last . Know they probably vary. Give us a sense of what were expecting. Guest theyre vary from topic to topic. In this case the clock is ticking. They have set themselves an end of the year deadline. Essentially the deadline is christmas. I think theyre going to vote oday on the resolution creating the conference committee. I think the idea is that they really want to get most of the tough work done this week and then go from there. But they dont have a lot of time. Were just in wait and see mode. If they give themselves the twoweek crmp r they give themselves a little time to play with. But they want to look at the omnibus spending. A very different issue. The sense is they want to clear their plate of tax reform and on to government spending. Their staff behind the scenes is probably doing both but they would like to get most of that this week. Overnment guest one thing to look at too is who composes the conference. If you had say a ron johnson or steve dains theyve been focused on how Small Business would be this affected on soca passthroughs. If a johnson was appointed to the congress. About an hour and0 minutes. You came to hear my friend, john podesta, who for decades